Tip Up vs Tip Down Poll
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Tip Up vs Tip Down Poll
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Re: Tip Up vs Tip Down Poll
Up… to the extent I don’t even consider a knife that can’t be carried tip up.
Just weird that way…. I guess…
Just weird that way…. I guess…
Whatever turns you on, cupcake.
Still plays with knives…
Still plays with knives…
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For me it totally depends on the knife. I prefer tip up as long as the knife is both (1) small enough that I can easily access the hole in tip up configuration without "scooching up" the handle after drawing the knife, and (2) has a strong enough detent/closing bias that I don't need to worry about the knife unintentionally opening.
So smaller backlocks, absolutely tip up. A larger knife with a liner lock like the military, I prefer tip down. Everything in the middle depends on how relevant the above two factors are, plus how the clip feels in hand during use between the respective configurations. E.g., a knife with a choil like the Police is perfectly comfortable for me to use tip down because the choil gives me additional room to grip the knife "above" where the clip sits in hand. Whereas for me, using an endura with the clip tip down creates a hot spot with prolonged use because the clip sits right against my hand where I'm gripping the knife.
So smaller backlocks, absolutely tip up. A larger knife with a liner lock like the military, I prefer tip down. Everything in the middle depends on how relevant the above two factors are, plus how the clip feels in hand during use between the respective configurations. E.g., a knife with a choil like the Police is perfectly comfortable for me to use tip down because the choil gives me additional room to grip the knife "above" where the clip sits in hand. Whereas for me, using an endura with the clip tip down creates a hot spot with prolonged use because the clip sits right against my hand where I'm gripping the knife.
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The only factors that matter to me are ease of opening and how the knife feels in hand after it's opened.
Unlike probably every other person on this forum, I open a knife with my right hand, move it to my left, and then use it. This is because I'm left-handed but, because of neural tumors in my left hand, I find it easier to open and close a knife with my right. I realize this negates much of the advantage of one-handed open/close, but that's how it is...
All that said, this nearly always means a clip mounted on the right side of the knife, tip up, just like most people do for other reasons.
Unlike probably every other person on this forum, I open a knife with my right hand, move it to my left, and then use it. This is because I'm left-handed but, because of neural tumors in my left hand, I find it easier to open and close a knife with my right. I realize this negates much of the advantage of one-handed open/close, but that's how it is...
All that said, this nearly always means a clip mounted on the right side of the knife, tip up, just like most people do for other reasons.
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Up unless it's not an option.
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Neither.
Clipless in the pocket. No need to advertise that there is a sharp object in my pocket.
But when I’m out fishing it is clipped in the front pocket of the waders, tip up.
Clipless in the pocket. No need to advertise that there is a sharp object in my pocket.
But when I’m out fishing it is clipped in the front pocket of the waders, tip up.
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I'll make a prediction before I look at the results and before I read any of the other posts- these polls come up every couple of months year after year and the results are somewhat consistent. Roughly 75% of internet knife enthusiasts choose tip up.
There are a lot of reasons- safety, comfort when holding the knife, use of a wave opening device, use of a lanyard.
I entered this post then cast my vote on the poll- out of 17 votes there were 76% for tip up. I have my preference but I don't automatically discount a knife because it doesn't meet my preference, there are a lot of good knife designs built both ways. I have become proficient at using both styles so I own and carry both styles.
There are a lot of reasons- safety, comfort when holding the knife, use of a wave opening device, use of a lanyard.
I entered this post then cast my vote on the poll- out of 17 votes there were 76% for tip up. I have my preference but I don't automatically discount a knife because it doesn't meet my preference, there are a lot of good knife designs built both ways. I have become proficient at using both styles so I own and carry both styles.
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Voted "depends on the knife." Mostly don't care, but I switched my Maxamet PM2 to tip down because I didn't like the way it sat in my pocket tip up.
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Y’all “tip up or die” folks should try tip down for a bit. There’s nothing the least bit wrong with it at all. It’s much more flexible than tip up, especially with knives that depend on little detent balls to keep them closed.
If a knife is setup for rhtd, it doesn’t seem the least bit weird to alternatively carry it in the left pocket or a shirt pocket or any jacket pocket in most cases. I wouldn’t dare carry a rhtu liner lock or comp lock in my left pocket.
If a knife is setup for rhtd, it doesn’t seem the least bit weird to alternatively carry it in the left pocket or a shirt pocket or any jacket pocket in most cases. I wouldn’t dare carry a rhtu liner lock or comp lock in my left pocket.
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I'm guessing this thread was prompted by the latest issue of the Spyderco Byte. Great article on tip up vs tip down carry. I really enjoyed it.
As for me, it depends on the knife. For instance, I prefer tip down for long knives like the original Military. However, I also take into account factors like the clip. Sometimes the clip is much more comfortable in hand when positioned tip up or vice versa.
But I can adapt to either. So long as the knife is comfortable and cuts the way I need it to cut, I'll make it work.
As for me, it depends on the knife. For instance, I prefer tip down for long knives like the original Military. However, I also take into account factors like the clip. Sometimes the clip is much more comfortable in hand when positioned tip up or vice versa.
But I can adapt to either. So long as the knife is comfortable and cuts the way I need it to cut, I'll make it work.
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Probably this thread is inspired by the new "byte" anyway, where there is a detailed and very good article about "tip up vs tip down (https://mailchi.mp/spyderco/spyderco-by ... 25e010da72 scroll down) - I strongly assume written by Mike Janich.
One thing that is said there is something I (and of course others) also always point out: The clip can also influence how well or not tip up carry works (for those who prefer that, which appearantly are many) - namely deep carry vs "regular" carry.
I´ll admit: I personally (!) am strongly opposed to deep carry clips for several reasons, and one is that a deep carry clip makes the thumb sit further away from the opening hole when one draws the knife, which again makes it more likely that "scooching up the handle" is needed - at least on long(er) folders.
This is not against deep carry clips per se for those who like those, just something to consider if one also likes tip up carry and long folders.
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... and concerning the poll:
100% Tip up guy here, even on larger folders ( I have rather large hands with long fingers and don´t like deep carry clips, so being too far from the opening hole has never been an issue for me)
For example: If (rather WHEN) I get another Millie 1, I´ll definitely come up with some tip up mod (by mounting a clip in the lanyard hole).
Never tried even LARGER folders - would be interesting to see how I´d like tip up on a P4 for example.
100% Tip up guy here, even on larger folders ( I have rather large hands with long fingers and don´t like deep carry clips, so being too far from the opening hole has never been an issue for me)
For example: If (rather WHEN) I get another Millie 1, I´ll definitely come up with some tip up mod (by mounting a clip in the lanyard hole).
Never tried even LARGER folders - would be interesting to see how I´d like tip up on a P4 for example.
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Top three going by pocket-time (update March 24):
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
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endura3 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:31 pmFor me it totally depends on the knife. I prefer tip up as long as the knife is both (1) small enough that I can easily access the hole in tip up configuration without "scooching up" the handle after drawing the knife, and (2) has a strong enough detent/closing bias that I don't need to worry about the knife unintentionally opening.
So smaller backlocks, absolutely tip up. A larger knife with a liner lock like the military, I prefer tip down. Everything in the middle depends on how relevant the above two factors are, plus how the clip feels in hand during use between the respective configurations. E.g., a knife with a choil like the Police is perfectly comfortable for me to use tip down because the choil gives me additional room to grip the knife "above" where the clip sits in hand. Whereas for me, using an endura with the clip tip down creates a hot spot with prolonged use because the clip sits right against my hand where I'm gripping the knife.
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I'm the guy who chose "never thought about it," which is as close as I could get to my preferred choice, which would have been: "I have no preference." Both seem to have unique advantages and I enjoy them both.
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Almost always tip-down. The only tip-up knife I carry regularly is a drop-point UKPK. And that's purely an "around the house" knife where I have easy access to other cutting tools. All my EDC knives are tip-down.
I have almost 30 years of muscle memory from carrying tip-down knives, and I don't see any reason to change. It works for me, and that's all that really matters.
I'm sure people know someone who will only drive a manual transmission car. That preference limits what new vehicles they might buy in the future, since most car models are no longer available with a manual transmission. That's kind of how I feel about tip-down knives. Most companies don't even offer tip-down models any more. Spyderco is one of the few companies (maybe the only company?) that still offers a lot of models that support tip-down carry.
I have almost 30 years of muscle memory from carrying tip-down knives, and I don't see any reason to change. It works for me, and that's all that really matters.
I'm sure people know someone who will only drive a manual transmission car. That preference limits what new vehicles they might buy in the future, since most car models are no longer available with a manual transmission. That's kind of how I feel about tip-down knives. Most companies don't even offer tip-down models any more. Spyderco is one of the few companies (maybe the only company?) that still offers a lot of models that support tip-down carry.
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Depends on the knife. Normally I'll go tip down if it's longer and tip up if shorter though
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For me it's tip-up only. I'mm right-handed and always carry in my front right pocket with the blade against the edge of the pocket, so that's safest, easiest to draw and least problematic to use the pocket alongside the knife (no jimping or stray blade tips to hurt ya).
I tried tip-down knives plenty of times and they never stick. The clip creates hot spots right where I grip the most. The position relegates the knife to a back pocket (front left is phone only) so it kinda falls by the wayside by default
I tried tip-down knives plenty of times and they never stick. The clip creates hot spots right where I grip the most. The position relegates the knife to a back pocket (front left is phone only) so it kinda falls by the wayside by default
The P4 is a surprisingly easy carry due to its slimness and sensible height, though I am a bit split with it - the way the clip is mounted it's easier for me to carry it with a deep carry clip (otherwise there's quite a bit of handle sticking out and stabbing me when bending at the hips) but in use the DC clip just doesn't work for me, weird under the pinky, too far to offer purchase when opening the knife. I settled for the standard factory clip.
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Tip up and deep carry clips on most knives. I put custom micarta scales on my S110 Millie primarily because they allowed me to spec a tip up clip config.
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I’m either/or - I care not so long as I like the knife. My secret personal preference is fixed blades
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I pretty much second this. Both work for me. I’d also say tip up or tip down does depends on how it goes with the particular design in question
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