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Backdraft
04-16-2001, 12:00 AM
i am 17 and would like a military for my birthday as i frequently go camping by my mom belives that spydies are to dangerous and i should stick to swiss army knives.

but i love the look of the military and want it so bad how could i convincer her that i could have one

please help.

thanks

cutler34
04-16-2001, 07:15 PM
Parents are the best judge of whether a person should own a knife.Let alone a particular knife.Try educating her on the safety aspects of the knife compared to a SAK.Then let her decide.
The knife must complete the tasks required and I think a folder with a locking blade is better for those inexperienced in using knives.

Regards
Ricki
info@outdooredge.com.au
Spyderco Club Member

Blades
04-16-2001, 07:22 PM
Maybe ask her to "hold it" it for you when you are not camping. When ya go camping you get to carry it with you, back home, back to Mom. Just an idea.


Blades

cgjones
04-16-2001, 09:06 PM
Maybe instead of starting with the Military, try going for a Delica or Native size knife. It would be a little more "toolish" then the Military. (Okay, I just finished typing this and realized that you didn't actually specify whether or not you already had a Spyderco. From the SAK comment, I'll assume no. If i'm wrong just ignore this.)

The forum member formerly known as cjones.

cerulean
04-17-2001, 03:55 AM
I think that most Swiss Army type knives are too dangerous to use. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

If there's not a lock on the blade, there's nothing to prevent it from closing on your fingers. Also, most Swiss Army style knives have small handles made out of slippery plastic. I personally won't use a knife with a handle under 3&quot;; it just can't provide a secure enough grip. And those plastic handles... geez.

Jazzman
04-17-2001, 03:19 PM
I like Blades' and Carson's ideas. The Military is one huge knife. I think that I brought one home, my folks would pass out. If I were you,I would try something smaller without serrations. And hey, if she won't buy it for you, just save up and buy it yourself. As long as you are 18, it is legal, and you plan on being responsible with it. Why not?
Good Luck,
Matt

Edited by - Jazzman on 4/17/2001 3:20:54 PM

vampyrewolf
04-17-2001, 04:37 PM
I have lots of knives, but my folks almost threw a fit when they saw one I bought myself at x-mas... a Scorpion2... They had no problems though with my Delica...

Just stay small, and parents don't normally mind. My folks love my cricket, and yet they thought I was crazy to spend $100 on it.

Paul Work
04-17-2001, 04:44 PM
Sit down and talk to your mom. Explain to her why you want/need this knife. Even if she won't go for the Mil, perhaps one of the smaller models (Delica, Native, etc.) would be acceptable. Just keep in mind that she is only looking out for YOU. Good luck

Paul

Kyoto_the_Shadow
04-17-2001, 07:24 PM
I'm only 15, and I tell ya what, brother, my mom pretty much hates the fact that I love and collect knives. She doesn't even like me to buy knife magazines. Carson and Vampyre have the right idea. My mom loves my new Copilot (it came yesterday), but she hates the huge and wicked hunting knife my grandpa bought me for my birthday. The secret: ask dad to buy it for you.

vampyrewolf
04-17-2001, 08:16 PM
Tell yah something... I started collecting when I was about 12... I got my first lockblade, a PoC for about $5, for Air Cadet survival. I had always owned swissarmy type knives so my parents were fine with it. I've been shopping at the same store now for 5 yrs. I got my Cricket as a late B-day gift for myself. I'm only 17 now... my parents don't have any problems, because they haven't seen any problems.

Guntaholic
04-17-2001, 09:11 PM
Get her to handle a Chinook!!! After that the military will seem like a Delica to her! Seriously you might want to take a look at her kitchen knives, try and show her how they were all intended for different things. You wouldn't care a roast with a filet knife? Or slice an apple with a Carving knife. Let her know the same concept applies to camp knives. Good Luck

Mancer
04-18-2001, 12:14 AM
hey hey hey, Chinook is a gr8 knife, I got one (but also want me a mil), I reckon the Chin is the perfect size and perfect weigh for a knife (I like the heavier sort)

Good luck on your mil btw

Seeya

MaNcEr

It's Time To Kick @$$ 'N Chew Bubble Gum

Guntaholic
04-18-2001, 03:12 PM
Don't get me wrong, I love me Chinnok too!

solid_soldier
04-18-2001, 05:56 PM
I had the same problem with my mom. Just a few weeks ago, she told me I could buy and carry anything legal. BTW I'm 19. I just bought a Spydie Wayne Goddard today and I can't wait to show her.
Have a discussion with your mom. I made a comparison between my love of fine knives and my mother's love of fine jewelry. She totally understands. Last weekend I even got her into a knife shop and she handled an Emerson Commander.
Best of luck to you.

That's why we carry knives

Mancer
04-19-2001, 04:18 AM
naaa Gunta, not a prob, didnt think you disliked it, to be honest dont think many sane pll can dislike that blade, my all time fav out of my knives.

ANyways seeya guys l8tr

Happy huntin

MaNcEr

It's Time To Kick @$$ 'N Chew Bubble Gum

voxnaes
04-19-2001, 02:46 PM
Hi!
Tell mom that; Cool blades don&#180;t cut people, people cut people !
Hope you&#180;l get the Mil, but othervise wait and get it as you turn 18.
Voxnaes

voxnaes
04-19-2001, 02:47 PM
Hi!
Tell mom that; Cool blades don&#180;t cut people, people cut people !
Hope you&#180;l get the Mil, but othervise wait and get it as you turn 18.
Voxnaes

voxnaes
04-19-2001, 02:49 PM
Hi!
Tell mom that; Cool blades don&#180;t cut people, people cut people !
Hope you&#180;l get the Mil, but othervise wait and get it as you turn 18.
Voxnaes

Jody
04-19-2001, 05:26 PM
You know Mom rules....but I agree with an earlier post that the swiss army knife is much more dangerous than the military because it doesn't lock. Have your Mom read this thread, and all the comments here. Maybe that will help.

She is still your Mom and you have to respect her wishes, just try talk to her about it calmly and rationally, you might be suprised with the results.

Also a Mom
Jody

Keep your spirit up & your blades sharp!

BladeWalker
04-19-2001, 06:40 PM
Hi Backdraft,
Print this out for your Mom..

Hi,
I've carried pocket knifes of all types for about 45 years and never seriously cut myself (or anyone else).

Recently, I decided to put my old SAK into retirement.
The reason was simple. In a life or death emergency, I don't want a thin little blade that will snap in half.

In a local (Boston) news, there was a report of a Pit bull that had bitten down on the face of a little 4 year-old girl and would not let her go.

A cab driver jumped out of his car and attempted to rescue the little girl. He stabbed the Pit bull in the side of it's neck. The dog moved and the blade just snapped in half. It was a SAK!
The dog just kept on biting on the girl..
Apparently, It didn't hurt him at all..

Finally, someone found a heavy 6 foot steel beam and hit the dog across it's back.
After taking a few hits, he released his bite on the girl.. (She lived).

The lesson that I took from this event, is when we got out for a walk, do not take a toy knife.
(people up the street have a pet Pit bull).

My wife and I are in our 50s and I don't want to risk our lives by carrying the wrong tools.

To me, buying a cheap knife (that can't
stand up to heavy duty use) is the same thing
as buying a $2 smoke detector.

Now-a-days, I carry a Syderco Standard
or a SOG Vision.

If you are going to carry a pocket knife,
make sure it's a good one, not a toy.
Good Luck,
Rich&lt;&gt;

Edited by - BladeWalker on 4/19/2001 6:43:35 PM

sal
04-20-2001, 10:44 PM
Hi Backdraft. Welcome to the Spyderco forum. Some &quot;real world&quot; answers here. And I might add that some of the suggestions are from highly trained MBC Players.

BTW, I have been impresssed by the high level of reponsibility in the suggestions offered to Backdraft. It shows both thought and caring. Makes me proud to be part of such a group.

Welcome to you also, Solid_Soldier and BladeWalker, to the Spyderco forum.

sal

Backdraft
04-21-2001, 09:45 AM
thanks i think i have got through to her thanks you have been a great help it makes me proude to be part of this comunity

solid_soldier
04-26-2001, 01:08 PM
Thanks Sal. Your knives are the greatest. Can't wait for more... Possibly a Strider collaberation or maybe a few autos?

That's why we carry knives