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UK KEN
01-31-2005, 03:01 AM
Hello All

I wonder if anyone can help? I have 9 Mariners in my collection.

1. SS PE ATS55
2. SS SE ATS55
3. Slab SS marked MARINER
4. SE AUS-8 Black FRN
5. SE White FRN
6. SE Orange FRN
7. SE Yellow FRN
8. SE Green FRN
9. SE Blach FRN Red checkered

Does anyone know if any others were produced? :confused:

Regards, Ken

recoil
01-31-2005, 04:34 AM
Ken,

Nice Collection,

You seem to have the Mariner/Rescue line pretty well represented.

A Mariner variation not mentioned is the Paramedic, basically a slab side, early ventless model without the "MARINER" on the blade and with scales of different thickness. PE & SE models were produced.

50 black-ti Mariners were produced back in the early 80's when Spyderco first started experimenting with this coating. They were all the slab sided, ventless model.

200 orange Rescue Jrs. (C45SOR) were engraved " In Memory of Americas Finest 9/11/01" and distributed to fire personnel.
200 Large black Rescue models (C14SBK) were engraved the same way. These were distributed to police personnel.
These folders were generously donated by Spyderco and are referred to as the "Ground Zero" rescues.

There may be more variations out there, hope this helps.

dave

UK KEN
01-31-2005, 04:47 AM
Dave

Thank you for your help!

The slab SS one I have with MARINER on the blade has no vents but a Paramedic would be a nice addition to my collection. The search continues! ;)

Regards, Ken

The Deacon
01-31-2005, 05:59 AM
Between your slab sided and ATS-55 marked ones in the timeline, there is also an chamfered edge version with no steel markings and MARINER engraved on the blade, and a G2 version with the chamfered edge and without MARINER engraved on the blade. My specimens of both are PE, so I'd say it is safe to assume SE versions of both also exist. Must admit I'm a tad :confused: as I got the latter of those from you Ken. :p I also have a LH SE in ATS-55 and beleive LH versions exist of the G2 and "no steel mark" era styles as well, in both PE and SE. Photo below shows those three, plus my PE Paramedic.
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-9/378550/4mariners.jpg

JD Spydo
01-31-2005, 06:35 AM
I have a lefty version made with ATS-55 it is chamfered of course. It says C-02SL on the box. I also have 2 others. I have one of the old classic GIN-1 serrated and a serrated version that also says "Mariner" right on the blade but it does not have what blade steel it is stamped anywhere on the blade. :)

UK KEN
01-31-2005, 07:08 AM
Paul

I must have thought I had a duplicate of the G2 Mariner I sold you. I hope that it was a good price ;) :D

I'll have to be more careful in future! :(

Regards Ken

Ted
01-31-2005, 07:16 AM
If someone can wrap up a definitive list, I'll put it on the Spydie-list...can't do it right now cause I'm at work... :p :D

The Deacon
01-31-2005, 07:55 AM
Paul

I must have thought I had a duplicate of the G2 Mariner I sold you. I hope that it was a good price ;) :D

I'll have to be more careful in future! :(

Regards KenYep, you kind of implied that in an email you sent me after I received it.

Paid an arm and a leg for it. :eek: But, it was the first PE Mariner I acquired and would gladly have tossed in a kindney. :D One of the reasons I snipe auctions is that by doing so I never get into "bidding frenzy" mode, and thus never bid more than I'm willing to pay, so I'm always happy with the price I pay, even if I get maxed out, which I can tell I did not on that one. :) Hope you were happy with the outcome.

Had to ask your permission to bid on that one, the auction had a "No Yanks need apply" sign on it. ;) :D

The Deacon
01-31-2005, 08:24 AM
I have a lefty version made with ATS-55 it is chamfered of course. It says C-02SL on the box. I also have 2 others. I have one of the old classic GIN-1 serrated and a serrated version that also says "Mariner" right on the blade but it does not have what blade steel it is stamped anywhere on the blade. :)Yep JD, my ATS-55 LH SE box is marked C02SL too. Box is blue with an 11/97 batch date. You also have the serrated version of the second one up from the bottom in my picture. Could swear I read somewhere in The Spyderco Story that the original slab sided Mariners were AUS-8 as it was thoght to be more rust resistant while the Paramedics were GIN-1 (G2) as it held an edge longer. While I know the Mariners eventually switched to G2, am not sure if all Mariners with no steel marking are AUS-8 or if at least some of the unmarked ones with the beveled edge on the handle are G2.

JD Spydo
01-31-2005, 09:33 AM
Yeah Deacon mine has a date of 11/97 on mine as well. I think that Sal Glesser told me that the old Mariners with the name "Mariner" stamped on the blade were GIN-1. I actually showed him my old one at the Spirit of Steel show in Dallas TX and he told me that. Other than the "left handed" Mariner I only have one other left handed Spydie and that is a Lefty Carbon Fiber Police. Oh yes my lefty Mariner is in a blue box as well. I really miss the Mariner I wish they hadn't have discontinued it. The Rescue will never be the knife the Mariner was with the exception of the Stainless Rescue which for all intent and purposes was a Mariner with different window dressing. ;)

UK KEN
01-31-2005, 09:38 AM
Paul

The Green FRN one I have is AUS-8A :cool:

Ken

Ted
01-31-2005, 12:27 PM
OK, Now I'm lost...so, what does and doesn't exist, and with what steels, and what was available with RH & LH?

This are the 16 possibilities combinations with SE/PE, engraving, vent and chamfered handles. Please post what you have (or in a picture)

PE - 'no engraving' - no vent - non-chamfered Paramedic (in pic Paul - RH)
SE - 'no engraving' - no vent - non-chamfered
PE - 'MARINER' - no vent - non-chamfered
SE - 'MARINER' - no vent - non-chamfered
PE - 'no engraving' - vent - non-chamfered
SE - 'no engraving' - vent - non-chamfered
PE - 'MARINER' - vent - non-chamfered
SE - 'MARINER' - vent - non-chamfered
PE - 'no engraving' - no vent - chamfered
SE - 'no engraving' - no vent - chamfered
PE - 'MARINER' - no vent - chamfered
SE - 'MARINER' - no vent - chamfered
PE - 'no engraving' - vent - chamfered (in pic Paul - RH)
SE - 'no engraving' - vent - chamfered (in pic Paul - LH)
PE - 'MARINER' - vent - chamfered (in pic Paul - RH)
SE - 'MARINER' - vent - chamfered


FRN models

FRN SE AUS-8A Black
FRN SE ..... White
FRN SE ..... Orange
FRN SE ..... Yellow
FRN SE AUS-8A Green
FRN SE ..... Black with Red checkered

The Deacon
01-31-2005, 02:03 PM
Just to clarify (or add to the confusion), to the best of my knowledge, the only ones that are really "Mariners" are the all stainless ones. The FRN knives are the early version of the C14 Rescue, with the plastic clip and the drying vent. To the best of my knowledge, the earliest of these, like the early Mariners, carry no steel marking on them. I have one like that in yellow SE and assume that at least a black SE version must exist as well. If you take "the book" at face value, prior to the VG10 version, the C14 was only ever made in G2 and ATS-55. As Ken can attest, that obviously is wrong. Believe, but cannot confirm, that the change to ATS-55 was made at the same time that the plastic clip and drying vent were eliminated and the 50/50 choil introduced.

Frank Halforty
04-02-2005, 12:54 PM
Hi fellow Spyder Fans -
As the newest member to the Forum, thought I would let the Mariner enthusists know that I have a Stainless Steel , with 'Mariner' on the 94mm(3 3/4") serrated blade. There is no 'vent hole' on the slab. The knife is in very good condition.
Keep it sharp !
Frank.

The Deacon
04-02-2005, 01:06 PM
Welcome to the forum Frank, do wish though that you had taken a minute to read the Guidelines before posting, since doing so would have made you realize that selling is not permitted here.

Do not post or transmit any unsolicited advertising, promotional materials, or any other forms of solicitation in Spyderco Forum. This includes the trading and selling of knives or other goods.

Frank Halforty
04-02-2005, 09:04 PM
I hope this meets with the approval of those that commented. :confused:

The Deacon
04-02-2005, 10:46 PM
Apologies - no offence intended - pure ignorance - was told I should try to get rid of the knife on the Forum. Any suggestions ? Appreciate constructive criticism. - Frank.
Prove your point !Well the first suggestion would be that you edit both your original and second posts to eliminate the advertising.