Paramilitary

[spydutch]

Just picked up my Paramil/SE. Great knive fits my hand almost as good as my NativeIII. It has no adjusatable pivot pin(which I thought it had but I must have seen it wrong from the picture) but there is absolutely no blade play so I think it will allright. The knife feels strong and sturdy.

One question about serrations. When I compared my serrated knives of CPM S30V with my serrated knives of VG10/ATS55 steel I noticed that the serrations on the CPM S30V are much rounder and less sharp/pointier than those on the VG10/ATS55 knives. Is there a reason for this or did I just have bad luck? The Para and the Gunting are my only serrated knives in CPM S30V.

[greencobra]

One question about serrations. When I compared my serrated knives of CPM S30V with my serrated knives of VG10/ATS55 steel I noticed that the serrations on the CPM S30V are much rounder and less sharp/pointier than those on the VG10/ATS55 knives. Is there a reason for this or did I just have bad luck? The Para and the Gunting are my only serrated knives in CPM S30V.
Great question! I was asking about what I called agressive and non agressive serrations not too long ago but never tied it to a steel grade. Maybe it has something to do with how well the steel can hold it's edge. Good observation.

Now, LOL, let's see what you get for answers.

[jimbo@stn24]

I have noticed the same thing. I am guessing it is the "pattern" for grinding the serrations (for lack of a better term) between knives produced in Seki City which are to the best of my knowledge, VG-10, and the knives from Golden, which are S30V. I kind of like the more mellow serrations on the Golden offerings. To each, their own. ;)

[Vincent]

whats a pivot pin

[gordonk]

That's an interesting point on the pivot pin. I hadn't looked closely at it, but it sure looks adjustable. I just got my para a week ago and am loving it :D

- gord

[i.v]

i never noticed the serrations issue so i just checked & the serrations on my s30v native a tiny bit more rounded than the ones on my cricket in vg10..
also, my SE salt1 has the most agressive serrations of the lot.. my guess is that it has to do a lot with blade geometry & what the steel can handle.
btw, i hate adjustable pivot pins & absolutely adore the rivets :spyder: uses, nothing to loosen with time, nothing to maintain even if something does loosen up, it can be adjusted even in the field with a couple of rocks :D

[gordonk]

Actually, I've had pretty good luck with my pivot pins. I've had very few work loose. Nothing a little Loc Tite won't cure :) Have to agree with the rivets, though. It is pretty nice. I have a couple of knives other than Spydie that have riveted pivots and they are still holding up fine, though I haven't used them extensively either. The one that I have that I have used a lot is a Grohmann Feather Lite, and it's held up fine. To date, I think I've used my Delica way more than the Feather Lite and it's still nice and snug. My Buck Alpha Folding Hunter was one that I had to Loc Tite in the pivot - no problem since. I have had, though, some clips and body screws work a little loose, mostly clips. One of the first things I do is check to make sure they are snug when I get the knife home. If they are anywhere close to loose, I Loc Tite them in.

- gord

[Jimd]

Thanks for the first impressions report. One day, I plan on picking up a Paramilitary, they look sweet.

[STR]

The Pivot pin on the Para-Mil I had was adjustable. You just had to hold a wrench in both sides. I adjusted mine to suit me right after buying it. How old a knife did you buy?

I think the Salts have the most aggressive serrations for extreme use in cutting rope around boats and other marine type uses. Could be wrong but it makes sense.

[Mr Blonde]

I suspect the 'sharp' versus 'rounded' serrations is an issue of steel hardness. S30V serrations might be more prone to chipping IF they were as 'pointy' as regular serration, because the steel is so much harder. Softer steels like H1 and VG10 can handle the fine pointy serrations better because of their lower hardness?!


Wouter

[STR]

I don't know about the H1 being softer in the serratted version. According to what I read from Sal on that a while back the serratted portion on H1 blades was like 68 on the Rockwell scale. I think that is pretty hard compared to the S30V.

My take on the Salt 1s serrattions are that they are border line too aggressive for most jobs. They cut better in harder materials than soft from my experiences though. When my wife tried to cut a rag with my Salt SE the edge literally grabbed the rag and pulled it out of her other hand instead of cut anything. But on cutting my old lower radiator hose on my old truck it ate right through it like nothing to it.