what would a millie look life if....

[sam the man..]

Fellow Spyderdudes...

I'm not trying to stir up any trouble or what... Just wondering what a Spyderco Military would feel and look like :



1) With almite coated aluminium handles

2) Titanium liners and scales.

3) Stainless steel handles.

4) FRN handles

5) Canvas Micarta handles



Sam



have spydies will travel

[br44]

I'd have to have everyone of them!

[sam the man..]

*hahahahahaha!!!* Dude ~ That's gonna put a hole in your wallet.. <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle> I'm sure at one point or the other.. Spyderco had considered producing prototypes of the millie with the give configurations... <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

Sam

have spydies will travel

[ronin203]

i would like to see the military with stainless steel liners. while i know how strong g10 is, i still have some concerns about the strength if the handle is flexed.

[CalypsoKid]

Sorry to be such a novice, I have a Harpy (SS) and a Calypso Jr, but my situation is that there is not a local dealer and I have to drool over Spyderco knives on the internet. My keyboard is a mess <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

Is G10 similar to FRN in that the material forms the structure for the knife? There are no liners in my Calyso. Is a knife with G10 handles made the same way? Or is the G10 laminated to the liners or some other such thing. My next Spydie will probably be an Endura but was a $1 away from getting a Navigator last night on Ebay

TIA for your reply.

~CK

[cerulean]

G10 isn't molded, so it just forms the scales. It's so strong though that you don't really need liners.

I recently polished the handle of one of my Militaries and it got me to thinking about how cool it would be if there was a Millie that had polished linen micarta scales. A problem though could be that micarta isn't strong or stable enough to work with the Military design. In that case, it might be cool to have a titanium handle with micarta inlays! (cue evil laughter) <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

Edited by - cerulean on 6/23/2001 8:47:44 PM

[mundele]

You polished the G-10 handles of your military? How did that work out? I dont think I've ever seen polished G-10.

I just got a Military, and I love it. I thought it was gonna be a bit big for me (I usually carry smaller knives) but it's great. I especially like the G-10 scales. My first knife with G-10.

--Matt

[sal]

Hi CalypsoKid. Welcome to the Spyderco forum.

There are many variables in knife making. the more you hang around these guys, the more you can learn. We have some very knowledgable visitors here.

Lockbacks are very forgiving with regards to twist. They can be made without liners in most materials. Most of the time we add a liner is so the clip screws can screw into metal.

Locks like linerlocks are not so forgiving to twist and usually require more rigidity. this can be done by adding dual liners, in some cases, &quot;nesting&quot; the liner (fitting the liner into an exactg size cutout in the inside of the scale) will provide the necessary rigidity.

G10 is made in sheets (like plywood) and the scales are cut out. FRN is injection molded into the final shape.

sal

[ronin203]

hi sal. would the military benefit from steel liners, or would it really make any difference. i notice that the chinook has g10, and liners, is that only because it is not a liner lock. p.s. great job on the chinook, i can't say enough good things about it.

[sam the man..]

Thanks for the insight on liners and lockbacks Poppa Spyder! <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle> Yep! I've learned plenty on this forum.. Some of the nicest people in the world hang around here... <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

Sam

have spydies will travel

[cerulean]

Thanks for the info, Sal! <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

About the polished G-10: it didn't turn out too badly, but it wasn't really great either. The handle was a bit slick and it didn't seem to look as good as polished micarta. I roughened it back up with some worn 220 grit paper for a better grip.

[CalypsoKid]

Thanks,Sal and others for your answers. This gives me a clearer picture of what G10 is all about.

~CK

[sal]

Hi Ronin. The Military has one full steel liner. The pivot goes through it, the steel inserts in the back spacer go through it and the clip screws go through it. It was designed to be light and strong. At 3.9 oz (110 gms) for a tough, 4&quot; blade folder, I would say &quot;so far, so good&quot;. It is also stronger than many of the advertised &quot;strong, tough , hard&quot; knives on the market. Even our G10 is custom made to have more layers of &quot;e-glass&quot;. G10 permits this because of it's rigidity. If we change the Mil to a compression lock, we would then have to go to dual steel liners because the lock design requires it.

There are very few knife companies, if any, that test as much as we do. We test to meet our own standards, we test the competition, we analyze steels, we do micro studies on grain structure and corrosion resistance tests. Our information does not come from the advertisers claims or even our vendors claims.

sal

[sam the man..]

Dear Poppa Spyder,

Speaking about &quot;customising&quot; the G-10, ever considered colouring the slabs? I think Olive Drab's kinda cool-looking on the Military.. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

Sam

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[stu]

Sal, that is simply amazing.

[sal]

Hey Samo. The Lil' Temperance is sort of an olive drab.

You will see more colors in the future. Even the Mil may end up with some pigment.

sal

[mundele]

That's great! I love colored knives. So will that most likely be one color per model of knife, or are you all planning on offering more than one color per model? Just curious...

--Matt

[sam the man..]

Thanks for the scoop Poppa Spyder! <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>
I guess with the constantly evolving blade scene and Spyderco's committment to constant quality improvement, we might be able to enjoy the G-10 handles in woodlands camo, realtree, desert tan and Olive Drab other than the traditional black slabs... <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

Sam

have spydies will travel

[ftkinney]

i, of course would love to see scales in titanium or ss.

FTK

[stu]

That sounds really neat. The new colored G-10 would be a perfect excuse for another Miliary.

Sal,

Are you concerned the new pigments would affect the G-10's integrity? Just curious.

Take care,

stu

[stu]

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention my other idea. I do not know much about the manufacturing process of G-10, so these could be unfeasible ideas.

Beacause G-10 is layered, could you put a thin metal(?) object near the top layer during manufacturing and create a subltly raised likeness of it on the outside of the slab? Also, could you impress a design into the material before it hardens?

Thanks,

stu

[stu]

Still curious, but I know ya'll are really busy.

Take care,

stu

[sal]

Hi Stu. Puting s metal sheet in the G10 during the laminating process I think would defeat the purpose. the epoxy couldn't &quot;move&quot; through the steel, like it does though the glass.

Trying to imprint something in the top layer might be possible. I'm note sure it would be practical though.

sal

[The Stare]

Some people never know when to give up. Being one of those, since we're talking different handles and different colors, want to make one more plug for multiple FRN handles for the Calypso Jr. Ltwt. I believe they'd sell like hotcakes. Know I'd get a couple colors.

Also, anyone know who might have the blue Delica in stock now? Sooner or later, I think every Spydie fan has to get an Endura and a Delica. I may be getting to the sooner point. Then again, may not. I know nuthink!

Stare