View Full Version : what about the cara cara byrd knife?
moonlight
08-25-2005, 05:31 PM
i know i've already post it in another thread, but i prefere update it. Does somebody knows the cara cara? Is it a spyderco or another trademark named byrd? what about it quality? for a stainless steel handle, it's pretty cheap but i'm waiting to my order and i'm curious.
i had and lost two delicas,one FRN, the other in stainless steel. both of them in spyderedge because i prefere this.
let me your post about your opinion
The Deacon
08-25-2005, 05:40 PM
Byrd is a separate line of knives, manufactured by Spyderco, to satisfy those looking for a decent quality knife, but not willing, or able to pay the price for a Spyderco.
Fit and finish on the knives in the Byrd line is not quite as good as that on an all stainless Spyderco, but they are very good and quite impressive considering the selling prices of the knives. Steel seems decent, again, not as good as VG-10, probably not even as good as AUS-6, but folks are reporting that it holds an edge pretty well and takes one easily.
moonlight
08-25-2005, 05:53 PM
when i will have it in my hand, i will give my opinion on it.
Here in france, we have a lot of knives factory. Each region has its knife and there are a lot of handmakers with they own knife design.
In spite of it, i love american knives because of their designs. I already have a Buck bowie knife (the same seen in the "scream" 's wes craven's movie ; i know it's a bit freaky, my girl friend already told me ;) ), a lovely combinationedge Gerber in my little collection
Childe Roland
08-25-2005, 06:17 PM
Steel seems decent, again, not as good as VG-10, probably not even as good as AUS-6, but folks are reporting that it holds an edge pretty well and takes one easily.
I'm no steel expert so I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that the steel used in the Byrd knives performed about like AUS 8.I think most people would consider AUS 8 to be better than AUS 6.
ghostrider
08-25-2005, 10:49 PM
I'm no steel expert so I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that the steel used in the Byrd knives performed about like AUS 8.I think most people would consider AUS 8 to be better than AUS 6.
IIRC, Sal said that the "8etc." used in the byrds is "similar in it's properties to AUS-8". JDEE has said that it performs better than the Ka-bar Doziers which have AUS-8. However, that may be due the the Hrc61 with no reported brittleness that is common in 440c at that hardness IIRC.
In my experience the steel is pretty good, no complaints. As will sometimes happen, a few sharpenings really improved the edge on mine. Sometimes, it seems you can have a bit of weak steel on the edge, but that is true more expensive knives as well.
Without drawing direct comparisons, sure I prefer S30V or VG-10, but the steel in the Meadowlark I have really has held up very well. From a purely theoretical perspective, the composition is closer to Aus-8 than to Aus-6 (judging only by the main ingredience). The steel in the Byrds, 8Cr13MoV, contains a lot more carbon (0.8%) than Aus-6 does, but of course composition isn't everything.
Bottom line, for me at least, is: The Byrds are a terrific deal. Best bang for the buck anywhere, and even measured against knives several times their price absolutely nothing to be ashamed of.
gordonk
08-26-2005, 12:33 PM
I have a Meadowlark and agree with HoB. No complaints. I've had mine a couple of weeks now and it's been thru a couple of sharpening/touch-ups. That's what I get for scraping "stuff" with it :) Can't say for sure if it's better than my Kabar/Dozier - haven't done a side-by-side, but it's easy to touch up and holds up easily as well. Definitely a good buy for the money. I carry several folders, so it tends to be heavy, but it's not annoyingly so.
- gord
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