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Corallis
08-29-2005, 09:59 PM
I don't know if this has been considered before at all or not, but I think that it would be great if there was a Byrd Karambit. It seems to me like there is not such thing as a "medium quality" karambit. I'm personally looking to get one for myself to see how I like them, but I have encountered quite a few problems. The karambits on the market are either A) crappy or B) way too expensive for a knife that I just want to try out. Not wanting to shell out $150+ for a knife I may not like very much, I was forced to buy a crappy folding karambit off ebay for $15. If I do actually like the design of the knife once it arrives and I want to buy a new one, a Spyderco karambit will set me back about $160. That isn't even taking into consideration the ones from dedicated karambit manufacturers that cost upwards of $300. I think if there was a Byrd Karambit for somewhere between $30-$50, it might get alot of attention. It could be similar to the current Spyderco karambit, but with the chinese metal that all other Byrds are made out of. So, what does everyone else think about this? Is there any potential?

Irish Lager
08-29-2005, 10:08 PM
i think it would go over verry well like the crossbill,
however,
i dont think byrd would design and produce a karambit for that price range. seems to me it would most likely be in the $75-80. Still would be reasonable but who knows how it would work. just my thoughts,
J

The Deacon
08-30-2005, 01:05 AM
Please do not take any of what follows personally.

Not sure how well marketing an inexpensive "weapons grade" Karambit would fit with Spyderco's philosophy. Unlike the other designs offered as Byrds, the Karambit does not really lend itself to any use except as a weapon. The current pricing serves to keep them out of the hands of the "mall ninja" crowd. Considering the damage some of the reasonably intelligent and knife-savvy members here have managed to do to themselves with the Spyderco version, not sure that making the design more easily affordable to those at the shallow end of the gene pool would be a sound decision.

Corallis
08-30-2005, 08:05 AM
Please do not take any of what follows personally.

Not sure how well marketing an inexpensive "weapons grade" Karambit would fit with Spyderco's philosophy. Unlike the other designs offered as Byrds, the Karambit does not really lend itself to any use except as a weapon. The current pricing serves to keep them out of the hands of the "mall ninja" crowd. Considering the damage some of the reasonably intelligent and knife-savvy members here have managed to do to themselves with the Spyderco version, not sure that making the design more easily affordable to those at the shallow end of the gene pool would be a sound decision.

That's an interesting point, but are you sure the reason for the current pricing is really so that irresponsible people cannot afford them? It seems to me like the pricing would be that high because of the quality of steel and the difficulty of the crafting - I could be wrong though.

tduffydpa
08-30-2005, 08:21 AM
i'd be inclined to think that the reason for pricing is to keep the karambit away from those "at the shallow end of the gene pool" more so than the manufacturing process. most of us would have to admit we've seen irresponsible fools brandishing some cheap toy out of sheer ignorance and stupidity at one time or another. just think of the damage a karambit could do if anybody could get one easily.

Michael Cook
08-30-2005, 08:38 AM
:spyder: NGK has kerambits for just under a hundred bucks. Very high quality knives, very dangerous if not properly used.
Train hard and stay safe. Mike. :spyder:

224477
12-13-2006, 04:10 AM
I wanted to start a thread like this, but found out it was once up.

I was just wondering if the climate for this has changed or not, because I encountered same problem as Corallis.

I think we are missing something what could be called a middle class for Kbits.
There are cheap knock offs on the market, crappy workmanshipped and then nice production pieces like Spyderco, EKI, which are too expensive for folks like me.

Had the same idea as for a byrd kbit in a more reasonable price level but with decent quality. G10+steel liners construction would be essential.

But what Deac` said makes sense, its a kind of knife where the "weapon" meaning plays more prime then utility, so maybe therefore the price is a sort of filtration against mall ninjas. It would be really hard to explain to anybody for what kind of utility do you carry such a knife in urban environment. :rolleyes:

Piet.S
12-13-2006, 04:40 AM
The Spyderco K-bit is still on sale for just $85.

http://spyderco.com/catalog/list.php?genre=knife&offset=31&per_page=10

It sure isn't crappy.

ruxton
12-13-2006, 08:20 AM
Please do not take any of what follows personally.

Not sure how well marketing an inexpensive "weapons grade" Karambit would fit with Spyderco's philosophy. Unlike the other designs offered as Byrds, the Karambit does not really lend itself to any use except as a weapon. The current pricing serves to keep them out of the hands of the "mall ninja" crowd. Considering the damage some of the reasonably intelligent and knife-savvy members here have managed to do to themselves with the Spyderco version, not sure that making the design more easily affordable to those at the shallow end of the gene pool would be a sound decision.
That about sums it up, the worst cut I've ever had was from the spydie kerambit, also the first major cut in about 7 years. It can't be overemphasised how dangerous they are.