i had an idea...

[ruxton]

erm hi this is the first time i've ever posted a new topic so bare with me

i had an idea the other day, i was sittin around with my friend and having a beer, i left my swiss army at home so i didn't have a bottle opener, we both had our spidies tho, i have a harpy he has a police. so we were thinking about how to open a bottle with one, i dunno what all the knife bits are called but we were thinking that u could use the little notch at the bottom of the blade when its closed to get the cap off. didn't quite fit tho but if u can put a little groove in it it might. i know its a knife not a bottle opener but it could be useful...



Edited by - ruxton on 7/31/2001 10:57:21 PM

[Jeff/1911]

Hmmmmmmm. Very interesting. I wonder if there's any good reason in terms of design and function that it couldn't be done.

I have used the base of the spine of my Native before. That seems to work well, although it does require twisting the knife a fair bit which could be hard on the pivot, I suppose.

I like your idea. - Jeff/1911.

[sam the man..]

Hmmmm... Interesting note! I actually succeeded in opening a beer bottle cap with my Spydewrench! *yeehaw!* <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

Sam

have spydies will travel

[stu]

Ruxton,

Interesting idea, I had never thougt of using that part of the blade.

Samo, where there's a will, there's a way.

Take care,

stu

[sal]

Hi Ruxton. elcome to the forum and thanx for the post. We have had a number of ELUs request a cap puller in a knife. One guy actually built one into the handle of his Delica...very nice job I might add. I don't think that I would use part the lock mechanism, for safety reasons. But, you do bring up an interesting topic.

So......let's talk about it. Who would want a cap opener built somewhere into the handle (or blade) of a closed knife and where would you put it?

sal

[ruxton]

hi ppl thank you for replying,
Quick questions... who is sal? do u work for/represent spyderco? and what is an ELU? as i said i'm new to the forum. i had another go i couldn't quite do it with my harpy and i don't wanna risk damaging my other knife (a CF civilian <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>) but on the SS models i wouldn't think it could damage the knife, the only reason i mention it is that it is practically the right shape for it as it is. a special bit of the handle specifically designed to open bottles might detract from the overall looks of the knife, a tiny groove on a bit that no one can see when its open on the other hand would be unobtrusive and (to me neway) v. useful.

[vampyrewolf]

ruxton&gt; Sal IS Spyderco. He is the CEO of the company, and takes time out of his busy day to come to the forum and listen to us.

Sal&gt; I like the idea I saw before with the cutout on the 'kick' behind the blade... Not sure what kind of stress that would put on the lock though...

(edited for the correct term, just remembered it...

We all start with 10 fingers. Those with Spydies have 9 to spare, Still need a thumb. Good thing I still have 8 to spare...

Edited by - vampyrewolf on 8/5/2001 8:30:15 PM

[ruxton]

Wow, i'm lost for words, i had no idea you were the CEO, thank you for taking the time to post a reply, i'm a big spyderco fan. Earlier this year i went on holiday to America and bought a CF civilian, not many people in the UK have them i'll bet, your knives are of a quality that far surpasses all other brands and makes, thank you again.

[clipiteer]

Sal, would it be possible to build some sort of opener into the clip? Then maybe offer these opener clips as accessories?

[Jazzman]

Sal,
how about a cap lifter near the base of the blade on the bottom like in the old &quot;trick knives&quot;. I have used the one on my grandpa's old knife to open a bottle and it worked perfectly. The only thing that may be a problem is how it would affect the integrity and strength of the blade.
Great idea though,
Matt

[Turbo923]

Hey, I'd go for it...maybe put it in a smaller knife like the Delica.

An honest man's pillow is his peace of mind

[sam the man..]

Ummmm... adding a cap lifter somewhere on the Spydewrench oughtta be cool.. Sorta like having a Spydewrench Mark II or something like that..

Sam

have spydies will travel

[Dav]

Hehheh. :-) I've been using my daily carry to open Coronas for years... What's always puzzled me is why does the weak little aluminum cap scar the stainless steel of the casing. I guess it’s all just a forcearea problem.

I say leave the spydies as they are- beautiful and unmarred separation devices. Unless you’re making a model called the 'bar wench'. If you want a Swiss, buy a Swiss.

Dav

[yog]

Mixing beer and Spydies ??
If it wasn't for the fact that the beer you yanks drink is like making love in a row boat I'd be worried <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

Seriously, I agree with Dav, Spydies are a work of art, don't spoil them.

Edited by - yog on 8/6/2001 1:59:44 PM

[sal]

Hi Ruxton, thanx for the kind words. I get here as often as I can, not as often as I'd like.

What would be best I think is some type of accessory that can be fastened to any model. The actual part that does the opening is only 1/4&quot; consisting of a hook &amp; lever.

sal

[aero_student]

What if it was attached via the lanyard hole?

[ruxton]

Hey ppl,
nice ideas, the clip could be modified so that it was bent over to have a kink in the middle fairly easily, i was thinking that you could screw in an attatchment in the lanyard hole to pivot out, i think there is something like that on a leatherman, the flair i think, the gold bit which swings out.
all i'm saying is it could be done but to be honest i wouldn't want one on my knife. it would destroy the overall look of the knife, the only reason i suggested is that its the right shape already.
Mat
P.S. to &quot;yog&quot; i am most definately NOT a yank

Edited by - ruxton on 8/13/2001 1:39:49 PM

[yog]

Yeah, I did notice.
But the joke wasn't as relavent without that ommition ;-))

Where in the UK are you ?

[ruxton]

Hey yog,
i live 'bout 50 miles from london. What knife have u got then?

Edited by - ruxton on 8/13/2001 4:17:57 PM

[vampyrewolf]

I saw this over on bladeforums...

Just use a bowie to open the bottle.

-start just above the label and slide up, real fast.
-the spine of the blade will connect with the lip of the bottle, actually blowing the cap off.

just don't try to drink from it after... ahh, blood... how am I gonna stick a bandaid on my lips?

there's pics in bladeforums from the guy who did this one... back in april or may I think...

We all start with 10 fingers. Those with Spydies have 9 to spare, Still need a thumb. Good thing I still have 8 to spare...

[yog]

Hey Ruxton.
I guess you can tell by the blurb next to my name that I am down in Sunny Cornwall.

As for knives, I have my first spydie, the Ladybug, followed by PE Military, PE SpyderWrench, PE SS Delica, SS Harpy and a G-10 Civillian and PE Calypso Jnr on order.

Damn, these things are addictive <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

[ruxton]

Hey yog,
i imagine there isn't too many ppl with spidies in the uk, especially civilians<img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>, they are just soo satisfying, put a dent in your wallet but its always worth it. i got a SS harpy, SSSpolice, a PE spydercard and of course my CFPE civilian <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>, my next purchace will be a SE military. u got any idea about the legality of carrying them? i think its 3 1/2&quot; but they brought out a new law where its illegal to carry nething a policeman considers an offensive weapon i think.

Edited by - ruxton on 8/13/2001 7:43:06 PM

Edited by - ruxton on 8/13/2001 7:44:33 PM

[Alan2112]

How about a new generation clip in the shape of a bottle opener. It could be under spring tention, pull out, then swivel up to lock in place. Sal, as a LEO I'd also like to see a glass breaker made into the bottom of models that are aimed at Emergency personnel, the Police model, Endura etc. RKBA!

[yog]

Hi Ruxton.
It was quite satifying when ordering the Civilian to hear &quot;Thats going to be a special order ... Oo, that IS a special order&quot; <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

As for the legality of carry, yes it is very vague. I only every carry the Military when I'm working on a construction site, so no problems there. The Delica and now the Calypso Jnr I have no wories over, it helps that at work I usually wear a tie and glasses, am softly spoken, and I am always very polite to policemen. The Civilian I must admit is the only one I have as a collection object, it's definatly not going out the house, there is no way I could justify carrying that in public.

Of them all the Harpy is the only one that gives me pause for thought, especially as it is part of my daily carry rotation and does look quite mean.
If asked I would say that after 15 years of Martial Arts I should know what would make a good self defence blade. I would then point out the limitations of the Harpy, not very good for stabbing, hawkbill is likely to get caught on clothing, serrations are so big they are bound to snag in loose woolen garments. I would say that I choose this knife because it could not be confussed with a defence weapon, and then point them to the Spyderco site where they describe it as a rope cutting tool.
I would definately NOT mention that a sharpened pencil can be a lethal weapon, and that the Harpy would make an excellent defence blade <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

[ruxton]

lol, whatever you do don't mention that Hannibal Lecter used it to gut a policeman!