Hannibal

[Turbo923]

I've been wondering for a while, what knife Dr. Hannibal Lecter would be using in the movie, Hannibal. You must've seen it when he sliced Pazzi's belly open.



I believe it's a Spyderco Harpy, but non serrated.



Do you happen to know a site that has a picture of this very same knife? I'm dying to get one of those.

[ruxton]

hey,
you are correct its a harpy (serrated), also in the book he buys a civilian from a gun show, but you don't see it in the film.
Mat

[ruxton]

hey,
you are correct its a harpy (serrated), also in the book he buys a civilian from a gun show, but you don't see it in the film.
Mat

[ruxton]

hey,
you are correct its a harpy (serrated), also in the book he buys a civilian from a gun show, but you don't see it in the film.
Mat

[vampyrewolf]

His knife wasn't serrated, I've got a picture of it! Not in the movie it was. And I recall him saying in the book he requested a non-serrated one. Maybe your book is different, I have the Dutch version. :-) Hold on, I'll go and get for it.

Well I read the ****. He first requests for a Harpy knife, (Harpij mes) in my language, and then a Spyderco knife with a straight 10 cm blade, serrated.

He never asked for a serrated Harpy knife. Ach,******it! That was the book! And that were the articles he bought, AFTER pazzi's death.

I'm talking about the knife in the movie, he uses for Pazzi and Carlo's brother.

That's a Spyderco Harpy, non-serrated. Right?

[vampyrewolf]

Can I send you the photograph of his knife?

[ruxton]

hey,
i'm sorry about the multiple post, have u seen the film? in it he uses it on pazzi to gut him, then on the guy (matteo i think it was) in the lecture hall to tear his throat out, u get a fairly good view then. on the balcony he holds it up so the point curves towards him, therefore (assuming he is right handed) u can't see the serrations as they are on the side away from the camera, in the book (english version) it just says harpy then and later at the gun show he asks for a "harpy please, and a straight, serrated Spyderco with a four inch blade" and a civilian. post the picture next time you come on if you like, and i'll eat my hat as you prove me wrong.
Mat
P.S. what a great film <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

[ruxton]

Hm, I suppose you're right. I mean, your answer does sound convinsing.

Yes, I've seen the film. I have it on DVD. Ripped it, watched that scene over and over.

I would if I could, but me posting pics doesn't seem to work. If you want them, I can e-mail them. <img src="sad.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

Anyway, is there a non-serrated harpy out there somewhere, or not?

Hm, so 10cm is 4inches huh? I learned something new today.

One more thing, have you seen how thin the grip is when he killed Mattheo? Well, grip, I don't know how else to put it. It's the thing that you hold in your hand and it holds the blade. GOD DAMNIT! What's the right word for that!?

Guess this is where my English ends...

[ruxton]

Great! The picture posting works! Let me post it fully.

[ruxton]

And now it doesn't. Guess there's a limit to the size of pictures?

[ruxton]

Nother pic

[ruxton]

hey,
This is gonna sound far fetched.... i'm seeing your photo and it does look plain, its dark and prehaps tyhe background studio lights reflect of the serrations differently, making them darker. or prehaps they removed the serrations for the film (wouldn't want sir(thanks Dav <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>)Hopkins to slice his finger off now would we?). not as for the handle/grip/whetever, on the SS harpy there is a long hole either side for draining water (evidently its a fishermans knife) i assume he is holding it in the film, so his fingers would obscure half the handle and the hole would give the impression of a flat back, i'll try to scan my SS harpy and post it l8r to show u what i mean.
Mat

Edited by - ruxton on 8/15/2001 7:18:24 PM

[ruxton]

Dude, thanks a lot! Would you do that for me? That's great!

[ruxton]

hey,
i scanned it successfully trouble is its 1020 x 444 pixels i can either e-mail it to u (its 37.2KB) or resize it substatially (it may look crap) your call,
Mat

Edit - i managed to resize it, it does look crap, but what the heck i'll post it neway, i'll still mail u the full size version if u like

Edited by - ruxton on 8/15/2001 4:22:51 PM

[Dav]

Wouldn't that be &quot;Sir Hopkins&quot;? <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

&lt;grumbles&gt; I always wanted to be knighted.

Dav

[Caleb]

Allright. Looks very sweet. I'm buying the Harpy!

I started a collection of knifes a while ago. I became obsessed with knifes just as I do with guns since I saw Hannibal. I wanted that knife he had. But I didn't knew witch one it was. So I started buying two knifes who looked like it, but both weren't Spyderco and weren't more than 50 guilders, I guess that's somewhere near 25 to 30 dollars.

But a Spyderco, that's a little more. I can buy a Harpy for 173 guilders, and that's I think, shall we say, 80 to 90 dollars?

Does that sound cheap or normal?

[80L]

I don't know if I'm out of line for saything this, but obsession paired with the words knives and/or guns, sort of makes a person sound nutty. I'm kind of leary of the guy who takes up the persona of a fictional, sociopathic, serial killer--and happens to collect guns and knives.

[Rugger]

Well 80L, thank you... Thanks for the compliment, or the insult?

Maybe you just can't see the beauty of a razorsharp knife cutting through some mother****er's skin, flesh and even soul...

Ha, ha, ha. I'm trying to be normal you know. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

Now for something different, maybe even you can answer it, I'm sure you can(t).
My previous post said the price of a Spyderco Harpy I could buy, is that price expencive or cheap?


Dr. Hannibal Lecter

[Caleb]

Hi Hannibal the price for the Harpy is approximately 90 dollars=200 guldens(dealer's price).
hey Hannibal do you go often to a coffee???

[vampyrewolf]

Hannibal, watch your language in here.

The harpy is 120 or so up here, or about 80-85 US(too lazy to convert exact price).

We all start with 10 fingers. Those with Spydies have 9 to spare, Still need a thumb. Good thing I still have 8 to spare...

[Caleb]

Nevermind the remarks about some &quot;displaced behavior some forumites doesn't like this:
when i discover this forum i writen a little signature:&quot;it's time to slice some throats and spill some some blood&quot;i've choose to remove it.seeya deer dutchman!

[Jeff/1911]

Hannibal,

Please refrain from the use of profanity when posting here.

Thank you, Jeff/1911.

[chinook]

Edited by - Chinook on 8/18/2001 9:34:46 AM

[80L]

I can get a Harpy for exactly $71.90 USD. I figre anywhere around $70-80 is a fair price for it.

[80L]

Oh, and there's nothing beautiful about a knife actually killing someone. My uncle was stabbed 70-some times, so maybe I'm biased.

[yog]

80L. 70 times? My, my. How does he look?

When I wrote the obscene word I thought it would've been turned into '****' signs. Apperantly it didn't. I apologize for the bad language, gentlemen.

And don't remember who said it but no I never visit coffeeshops. As if Holland is a country filled with them... Amsterdam is the only country who is so full of drugs, whores and scum. It's an umberracement to the country. The place where I live, is quiet, clean and organized. There are no junkies begging for XTC all through Holland. Thank God no.

Neither do they in America, right? However we Dutch people do get the wrong idea when we see the movies. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle> But we know better of course.

So, about the Harpy price, I guess mine is quite expensive. Of course my calculation in the American Dollars and the Dutch ones aren't so great, but I'll figure it out. As long as mine doesn't get more than it allready is, I'm definetly buying the Harpy...

Then finally my mind get's to rest... <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle> By the way, I'll try and scan the knifes I've got now. Thei're not spyderco, but they could've been...


Dr. Hannibal Lecter

[yog]

Correction: 'Amsterdam is the only city in Holland who is so filled with'.

I wrote Country... Sorry.

[M. Zlobotsky]

A few days ago I bought the Spyderco SpydeRench, and I can say it works terrific. The 440C plainedge blade is very sharp.

Because of it's beautiful design you imagine working with some sort of surgical tool. Dr. Hannibal Lecter would prefer this above his spyderco civilian or sharpy to prepare a nice diner?! It comes in handy when he has a victim with an hip-implant or something (what is the right word?)!

Thanks for designing such nice instruments, spyderco!

M'Z

[M. Zlobotsky]

A few days ago I bought the Spyderco SpydeRench, and I can say it works terrific. The 440C plainedge blade is very sharp.

Because of it's beautiful design you imagine working with some sort of surgical tool. Dr. Hannibal Lecter would prefer this above his spyderco civilian or sharpy to prepare a nice diner?! It comes in handy when he has a victim with an hip-implant or something (what is the right word?)!

Thanks for designing such nice instruments, spyderco!

M'Z

[M. Zlobotsky]

A few days ago I bought the Spyderco SpydeRench, and I can say it works terrific. The 440C plainedge blade is very sharp.

Because of it's beautiful design you imagine working with some sort of surgical tool. Dr. Hannibal Lecter would prefer this above his spyderco civilian or sharpy to prepare a nice diner?! It comes in handy when he has a victim with an hip-implant or something (what is the right word?)!

Thanks for designing such nice instruments, spyderco!

M'Z

[M. Zlobotsky]

Dr. Lecter would've never prepared a dinner with a Spyderco Harpy or Civillian. The Harpy he probably bought because it's not big, nobody would notice if you held it in your hand, the blade sticking out of your sleeve and then stomp somebody in the jagular, like Hannibal did in Florence with the thief... Suits him right. By the way, he wasn't much of a clever one. When are they?

Well anyway, the knife you mensioned could've been one of Lecters favorites of course, I suppose. Do you have a picture?

And of course, proparing a meal can also be served with some good kitchen knifes if neccecary. Human flesh and skin can be so fragile... <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

[Caleb]

Do you have a picture of your Spyderco SpydeRanch?

[80L]

&quot;80L. 70 times? My, my. How does he look?&quot;

He looked dead.

[Clay Kesting]

The person who stabbed him, 70 times, probably didn't really liked him much, did he? Where did this happen, and why? Do you know? I'm just interested.

Was he still alive after the 70 stabs? I know it sounds rediculous but you understand that depends on where you stab.

Dr. Hannibal Lecter

[80L]

Actually, his wife was having an affair with this guy, and she wanted her husband (my uncle) out of the picture. So, this guy she was having the affair with waited for my uncle to come home from work, and as soon as he opened his car door he was jumped and stabbed. They say he ran down the driveway, but for some reason (his family) he turned back where he was finished off. Forensics basically told us that the first wounds he received were in the neck area...where he got stabbed as the door opened. So, even if he would've gotten away from this guy he would've most likely bled to death. She was actually acquitted of all involvement which was BS (there were letters where she indirectly mentioned she wanted her husband dead), but the guy got 25 years in prison. That's the whole sordid ordeal in a nutshell.

[dbcrossfire]

25 years in prison? That's not a Hell of a lot. 25 years, is that the death penalty, or is he lucky not to have an execution?

What state do you live in then?

[aero_student]

Hannibal, I find your posts quite disturbing. You wanting and acting like a famous fictional killer and cannibal. The harpy and civilian are knives created for specific pruposes and you have mentioned none of them. The civilian is a defense knife meant only as a last resort knife. The harpy is for utting rope and nets and as an emergency escape and rescue knife in aquatic areas.

[yog]

Yes, and it can of course be used for other, interesting things. Like lunch... Like dinner, like breakfast. All sorts of things to fill your stomach.

Maybe you just don't understand the other kind of beauty of those knifes.
We all like the knife, only on a different way, don't you agree?

What does it matter anyway? I live in Holland, you live somewhere else. Leave me be... <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>


Dr. Hannibal Lecter

[Clay Kesting]

Hannibal,

I also find the content and tone of your posts disturbing. Where I live it is illegal to carry a knife in a public place. It is a law I break every day of my life but I go to considerable lengths to try to show people that knives are useful tools and that those who carry them and enjoy them are not criminals but normal law-abiding citizens. You need to remember that this forum is also a public place which can be accessed by those looking for anti-knife propaganda. The public conception of knives is bad enough without glorifying the despicable acts of a fictional psycopath. The fact that you live in the Netherlands is irrelevant as this is an international community and we may all be judged by what is written here.

It is also important to remember that our behaviour here also reflects on Spyderco and Sal himself. My personal opinion is that Spyderco could well do without the sort of advertising provided by Hannibal Lecter.

Clay

Don't worry that the world might end tomorrow, in Australia it's tomorrow already.

Edited by - Clay Kesting on 8/19/2001 2:33:12 PM

[Mancer]

Come now children, let our IQ's not sink that low, for gawds sake, whats with you 2?, this whole episode is bloody pathetic, Hannibal Ive never had any form of prob with yourself, and have never seen any outrageous posts, as far as 80L goes, well I havent seen you on the forum before, but your comment about Hannibal sounding nutty was uncalled for, yes his Nick is Hannibal, if he truely does believe his Hannibal Lecktor then by God he really is a dumb@$$, but its a nick, nothing more.
My nick is MaNcEr, short for NeCrOmAnCeR, its the nick Ive used for over 6 years, given to me by colleges in the IT industry since I was able to bring almost anything dead (Pcs, so on) back to &quot;life&quot;, does this mean I believe Im a Necromancer?, does this mean I worship a satanic demon and raise the dead to do my bidding?, or does this mean I believe I am, dont be bloody stupid.

To Hannibal, bud are you drunk or stupid?, how can you be so callous to the man about the death of a family member under such circumstances, I hope this was just a stupid thing on both your parts which you are both sorry for now, but really, you both acted like bloody idiots, this forum is for knowledge to be shared, not insults, sarcasm, and the wisdom of those acting like @$$HOLES, I suggest the two of you think clearly about what you have written before pushing the POST button.
The one Im the most disturbed with would definately be you hannibal, and to be quite frank I couldnt give a flying/swimming or running Fuuu........ where you live, any problems recieved by Spyderco because of comments you made affect all of us, 80L as I said had no right to suggest you nutty, but atleast he stopped there, the constant sarcasm and nastieness of your comments to his dead uncle are sick.

Lets not be childish
or insensitive to our fellow forumites

MaNcEr

It's Time To Kick @$$ 'N Chew Bubble Gum

Edited by - MaNcEr on 8/19/2001 3:57:52 PM

[80L]

Mancer- I think you got the wrong idea about my post; which is easy to do when you're reading rather than hearing my words. I didn't try to make a personal attack, nor did I make my comment because of his nickname. It wasn't intended to be a marring comment, but sometimes what we mean to say gets distorted in the communication. I made the mistake of making the post, so for bothering people I apologize.

[Jeff/1911]

Well said, Clay. Thank you for writing this on behalf of many of us here.

Jeff/1911.

[Caleb]

Well that's so sweet. Being sensitive about knifes and dead people.
As far a I noticed, 80L didn't find the death of his uncle too disturbing, otherwise he would've told me. He can allways tell me now.

Now, Mancer, I know there must be something that bothers you. I know, it's me. But what am I doing wrong? I was just curious about the, tragic, death of 80L's uncle, like I said before and before.

You and I have a different oppinion about some things. Like carrying knifes for different reasons, etc, etc.

I'm sure this will turn into a interesting conversation...

Dr. Hannibal Lecter

[Joyce Laituri]

I know this is a Spyderco Forum, but I have my eyes set on another knife as well, and maybe some of you can answer my question.

There is a knife pruduced by Columbian River. The knife itself is called;

CRKT Ryan Model Seven

Can you tell me if the blade is good for slicing? It has a sharp tip and blade. Selection from serrated and plain edge.

What if I took the plain edge, could you tell me if it was a good blade?

Here is the site.

http://www.1sks.com/store/crkt-ryan-model-seven.html

Thank you.


Dr. Hannibal Lecter

[Mancer]

Hannibal, as I said I have nothing against you, nothing what so ever, what I didnt like was the following comments &quot;80L. 70 times? My, my. How does he look?&quot;, thats just not on.
If you where interested in finding out what happend, fine, but that remark was just plain nasty, theres no other possible meaning to it.
80L, I didnt mean my post to you in such &quot;hard terms&quot;, I was just disterbed by that comment about your relative, hannibal bud, he may be over the loss of his uncle, but I bet something like that happening to a family member will always be a sore spot.
Ive had family members killed, and to this day its a very sore topic, the man that had to be sarcastic like that to my face about them wouldnt walk away from it.

Lets just be careful about what we post, thats all.
Hannibal I have a SS Harpy, its a beutiful lill blade, the tip is very sharp and to be honest for slicing wether it be food or self defense Id stick with the toothy version, them teeth are mean, go though anything and stay extremly sharp.
Ive had my harpy for around a year now, Ive only sharpened the teeth once, and this blade has been used very very often.

Its great for util cutting, stuff like boxes, rope, cable....

Its a blade you wont regret, It does many things, and it does them all well.

Seeya

MaNcEr

It's Time To Kick @$$ 'N Chew Bubble Gum

[sam the man..]

Sounds exactly what I seek in a Harpy. I know the serrated part is the nastiest part. I have two serrated blades myself, well, partially serrated, both not spyderco, but that doesn't neccecarily mean they aren't sharp as Hell....

I found out when testing the knifes. I slided my finger over the blade to feel it's sharp steel and there you go, a big, bleeding cut because of those tooth.

How can you hate your knife for cutting you... I could give her more love than anyone else...
Yes I'm allmost positive to buy the Harpy. Now I just got to find a little cheaper spot.

But one other thing, what do you think about the CRKT Ryan Model?

[Mancer]

Hey Hannibal ntw, one other thing.
About that &quot;plainedge harpy&quot; in the pic of Hannibal that you guys were on about, I was looking through my copy of &quot;The Spyderc Story&quot; and on page 81 theres a Spyderco Ad for the harpy, on it there is a SS Harpy, plainedge, looks like the same kind as the one in your pic.

My stupid bloody scanner is down at the mo (MICROSOFT WINDOWS SUX!!!!!,LINUX RULZ), if you want me to post the ipc just say so, Ill scan it off the book once I give this PC a reeboot and I can post it next time Im online if you like.

Cheers

MaNcEr

It's Time To Kick @$$ 'N Chew Bubble Gum

[Mancer]

Please, do.

[Mancer]

Not a problem, I scanned it in today, its a black &amp; white ad, here she is (I made a fairly large scan so you can get a good ol look)

Seeya

MaNcEr

Aaahhh!!!, was just about to post her but see the 400 X 400 pixel limit, no prob just made her smaller (kept it as large as I could for you guys though)

Enjoy

It's Time To Kick @$$ 'N Chew Bubble Gum

[Mancer]

Ok Hannibal shes posted, had a look at the pic you posted but cant make out if he is holding a FRN spydie or a SS, the blade most definately looks identical though from what I can make out.
If its not a SS version, is it not possible that the guys that did Hannibal mabey used a PE Merlin, and just said it was a Harpy, you know them guys, they might have thought &quot;what the hell, it looks identical so....&quot;

Anyways seeya all l8tr

MaNcEr

It's Time To Kick @$$ 'N Chew Bubble Gum

[sks]

No, no, no. This is a Harpy. There's absoluty no difference. I'm just not famillair with the terms SS and what's the other one?

I see no difference in there, I know there is, but that's not important. It's a Spyderco Harpy, plainedge. What else is there to know?

Here, this is definetly the one he used. I hope the pics aren't too big, I'm afraid so...

[CalypsoKid]

The knife shown in the previous message is a SpyderCo Harpy stainless steel serrated edge, not a plain edge. Although this may have been what was shown in the movie, I think the book character HL would have chosen a G10 Harpy. Blood would make the SS too slippery and he would have bought a tool to suit his needs. JMO. I guess to find out, you would have to ask Thomas Harris, but he is somewhat of a recluse, so we may never know for sure.

~C

[Tightwad]

I'm sorry. He's what?

By the way, I send in the wrong picture.

[Tightwad]

I'm sorry. He's what?

By the way, I send in the wrong picture.

[Tightwad]

Damn. Picture is too large. And I'm starting to post double???

[patogordo]

CalypsoKid, may I remind you that Dr Hannibal Lecter never cut somebody slowly, he did it very fast? Does that matter, yes.

Beacause when you get a cut, the wound starts bleeding a little later after the cut is made. Not long, but there's a time between it. The speed LEcter cuts somebody, there's enough time not to get your knife all bloody, so the problem with slippery blood -sounds charming by the way- would've probably been out of the question with any Harpy knife.

[CalypsoKid]

You may have a point, Hannable. And, there is a line in the book about how he didn't even have to wipe the blade after he cut Gnocco's femural artery but I tend to think in actual practice an artery would spray blood faster than you could withdraw the blade. JMO, I have no real experience here...thank God.

~C

[yog]

I don't know if I would regreat the fact that I dont have any experience on it. It would be a great experience on your enemy. Like Dr. Lecter said, (quote) it's perfectly sane wanting to taste the enemy (unquote)and I would said it's even more sane wanting to hurt or kill the enemy. At the moment I have small list. Anyway, I'm sure the blood came faster than he can pull back his knife. If you saw the movie it was a pretty quick move. In-out, walk through. Nobody who noticed. Beautiful.

[Clay Kesting]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:<hr height=1 noshade>I would said it's even more sane wanting to hurt or kill the enemy. At the moment I have small list. <hr height=1 noshade></BLOCKQUOTE></font><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2>
No Hannibal it is not sane. That is unless your &quot;enemy&quot; is attacking you and you are forced to defend yourself. Might I suggest that you get professional help before you find yourself spending a great deal of time being entertained by your government. I have been present when someone was gutted in a knife fight and no fictional account could ever describe the horror of what I saw that night. It was certainly anything but &quot;beautiful&quot;. It is quite beyond me how anybody can find that entertaining.

Clay

Don't worry that the world might end tomorrow, in Australia it's tomorrow already.

Edited by - Clay Kesting on 8/24/2001 3:32:23 PM

[dePaul]

So Clay, did you know that person?

[dePaul]

If so, I cannot understand why you would even care. There is no horror in dying people you do not know, theres horror in dying people you know very well.

[Toolin]

We see people dying on TV daily, we see war on TV everyday, do we care? No. First of all you don't know those people. It's hard to feel sympathy for people you do not know.

It's as simple as that.

Dr. Hannibal Lecter

[Tightwad]

Now back to the original subject, can you tell me what's the difference between a Harpy and a Merlin? They both look very tempting and charming but I cant make out the difference. Is there a difference?

[aero_student]

I would like to apologize to everyone in advance of this post except hannibal. You are one sick s.o.b. The death of ANY human is sad unless it be in self defense. It doesn't matter if you know the person. You really should see a doctor.

[earthworm]

<img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle> Are you telling me that you have to fight back the tears everytime you see or hear about the death of someone on TV or Radio?

You have a good sence of humor. My, my. <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

[yog]

Yes Hannibal, with age you do become more sensitive to people around you, even strangers.

If I were to rationalise it I would say that with age a person gathers loved ones around them, spouses, children, nephews / nieces and grand children. And with the accumilation of loved ones comes the realisation when you hear of a brutal act of violence &quot;what if that was my loved one ?&quot;. Like I say it is an attitude that comes with age / maturity, because when I was in my early twenties like many others of that age I was a calous S.O.B.

This has no bearing on how I feal about films / television, because like most other people I know the difference between a fictional story and real life. In the same way that a roller coaster is thrilling, but somebody falling off a high tower is horrifying. At the end of makebelife the ride ends / the actor stands up, the fiction is over, nobody got hurt.

I only hope that you are able to experience the worry over the safety of a loved one.
Don't get me wrong, this is NOT a weakness it is a strength.

[yog]

I think everybody is sick on it's own kind of way. People have the nasty habit of saying what they feel and think. I think some people on this Forum are being hypocritical.

You know I'm right. It must be, because war and other sorts of violent, making it's victems is something we see daily. Didn't you changed the channel when the news was on about a war because you just weren't interested? Not shocked? C'mon people, stop being so hypocritial. It's sane to get used to things.

Dying is part of nature. And nature is beautiful. <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

Now, can we get back to the Forum's purpose, which is to discuss knifes? Of course I'm in for a discussion about how, sick, we are, but I think it would de-increas the amount of people on this Topic. Or increas I'm not sure if our interests are common.


Dr. Hannibal Lecter

[chinook]

It's sad that in an age where there is the ability for people to reach out and broaden their community to include people they may never meet otherwise, that some choose to harden their senses and wall off their hearts; to withhold their compassion and fellowship.
Have you never volunteered your time or money or resources to help some person(s) in need? Maybe even someone you don't know? Maybe even in another country? Can you imagine another's pain, hunger, sorrow?
If not, then you are missing a reward that you will undoubtedly think unworthy of your time or effort.
Deny your humanity, forfeit your soul.

P.S. Not everyone who doesn't think like you is a hypocrite.


Edited by - Chinook on 8/25/2001 3:26:50 PM

[chinook]

Chinook you sound very sensitive. Did you felt anger or sadness when you posted this? Or was it anger and hate? Did you thought that when you would ever meet me face to face, you'd hurt me? A lot? Would you sew my lips shut with a red hot neadle and a lot of wire? <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle> No, you don't sound like the type for it.

I'm sure there are people here on this Forum who would do such things to me. Right? Please, tell me. It's sane to hurt the enemy.

[Clay Kesting]

Hannibal,

I'm human, therefore I care. If you can't see the horror in seeing a stranger's entrails spread out over the floor in front of you, then you have really lost touch with reality.

Do a search here and on the MBC forum for a thread I started on &quot;Knives for Self Defence.&quot; There is well documented evidence that all animals, including humans, have a inbuilt reaction against harming their own kind. This is well accepted by the military who spend much time training soldiers to overcome it. Those who don't have this instinct are psycopaths.

No, I won't answer your question and I would suggest that nobody else does either. I don't want to feel any responsibility for you future actions. Your posts indicate a total lack of compassion not to mention commonsense.

Clay

Don't worry that the world might end tomorrow, in Australia it's tomorrow already.

[Mr Blonde]

Hannibal, may I direct you to the martial bladecraft forum. I am sure that they would be more able to inform you about the blood and guts routine your interested in. BTW, judging from your posts you are a bit of a recluse, are you not? Zoek maar op in een woordenboek, of krijg je die niet bij het VMBO?

Edited by - Mr Blonde on 8/25/2001 4:28:06 PM

[chinook]

Hannibal...
When I was in the Army there was an enemy that I had taken an oath to protect my country and people from. When I was working in an ambulance I saw a lot of blood that I had to work through and not be affected by.
My wife loves to watch operations on television. Her dad was a doctor, her mother a nurse. I can't watch them, or rather, I choose not to. I have that choice now.
Hurt you? Why would I? I don't know you. You are not my enemy. You don't threaten me or my family.
Honestly, I feel sorry for you and the people around you that love you or that would if you would let them.


Disguised as a responsible adult

[chinook]

I never said I was interested in blood, guts and everything else that could fall out after a big slice. Well in a way I am, I like ER LIVE, but that's diferent. I'm sure you'll understand.


Now, Clay, you are human. Yes. Isn't that sick enough yet? Don't give me that crap about life is beautiful. Life was beautiful, but it was a time we've never seen.

Now I know that we have a different oppiniones, lets get back tot the topic's point.

The Spyderco Harpy and it's friends.

Like what's the difference between a Spyderco Harpy and a Merlin? I'm not familliar with it.

[Caleb]

Hi hannibal,
The HARPY is in stainless and now only serrated.The Merlin is in ZYTEL &gt;trademark from DUPONT (or Fiberglass Reinforced Nylon)and is serrated or plain edged.

HERESY'S not a crime.In the knives we trust,not in gods

[Clay Kesting]

Hannibal,

Like Chinook, I pity you and those around you. Your life is what you make of it. If you go round planting seeds of hatred and misery, don't expect to get anything better in return. If you see others as your enemies, how do you expect them to see you?

Life is beautiful, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You are obviously incapable of seeing it, and never will while you continue to live in a fantasy world inspired by lurid fiction. There is a real world out there, get out and enjoy it.

Clay

Don't worry that the world might end tomorrow, in Australia it's tomorrow already.

[Dav]

This is rather interesting. We all have different eyes. We watch the world as we grow up with it. We all watch it in a different way.

Clay, I'm not seeing anyone on this forum as my enemy, not at all. I didn't come up to this Forum to pick a fight.
How do you picture me when I post my messages on the Forum? Am I something that's called 'discussting' and does it make you close your eyes for a moment when you see it passing by?

Blind people also see no beauty in life, neither do I. And I'm not blind. Maybe I am blind to some things that you can see and I cannot? Shouldn't I be glad that I have immunity to things you call horror and terror, while it's something that happens daily? It might be even usefull.

Now Caleb, back to you. I'm able to order a knife back here in Holland, SPyderco Harpy, non-serrated. You said they were only produced serrated now. ??

Edited by - Hannibal on 8/26/2001 2:29:23 AM

Edited by - Hannibal on 8/26/2001 2:30:13 AM

[Clay Kesting]

Hannibal,

What I think of you is irrelevant. What concerns me is the damage that your posts are doing to this forum and to the image of those of us who love knives. To be sure that I wasn't overreacting, I referred this thread to an old mate of mine whose been hanging around the forums even longer than I have. Here's his response:

&quot;Damn! that is one sick bloke!
Doesn't the Spydie forum have a moderator ??
What the heck does that stuff do for our image? I mean, knife people are NUTS??? HE is! That stuff can be used in court to show we are all mad.&quot;

I don't expect to change your attitudes. All I ask is that you keep them to yourself.

Clay

Don't worry that the world might end tomorrow, in Australia it's tomorrow already.

Edited by - Clay Kesting on 8/26/2001 4:16:14 AM

[Clay Kesting]

Was that really a friend, or was it you? Why don't you give me that friends e-mail adres?

What's the image of people who love knifes at this moment? Could I change that, just one person? I don't think one person could do so much damage. Or could he? Sounds cute though, but I don't think I'm in for such a game. I don't see the fun of it. I just want to talk about knifes now if you dont mind. We'll just act like nothing happend. The question about a 70 times stabbed uncle was the thing that started this all. Is'nt it funny? <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle> Ok. So let's pretend I never asked that.

The death of 80L's uncle was the thing that really started this major conversation by the way. Is that 'mayor' or 'major' ?


Has anyone got a picture of a non-serrated Merlin?

[Mancer]

Ah gawd no man, ya know Im really sorry I ever posted that god damned pic, now all this cr@p has started up again.

Sheees

Anyways Hannibal, SS=Stainless Steel(as in the Harpy SS handle model) FRN=FiberGlass Reinfored Nilon(as in the Matriarch model).
Ok the Merlin has the same blade as the harpy, diff is that it comes in FRN handle (cheaper and lighter than G10), its also available in both spyderedge or plainedge.
The Harpy used to come in both, but the plainedge model was stopped, only Spyderedge now.

Hannibal look on the spyderco site, at the online SFO store with all the pics, you can see what Im talkin about there.
Just look at the Merlin and Harpy, you can see what takes your fancy.
Im not gonna get into the whole death thing, I been in it once, Im not been sucked in again.

Seeya

MaNcEr

It's Time To Kick @$$ 'N Chew Bubble Gum

[vampyrewolf]

Hannibal:

We all have our own views of the world, some react different than others with the same view.

I personally was beat on everyday in elementary(about 6-10 vs 1) till I started carrying a knife(grade 6). Still from those days I never trust anyone, suspecting everyone of something. I have learned to change my view, and give some trust to those who earn it.

Even with that fresh in my mind (going into grade 12 in about 1 week) I don't go about thinking of killing every single one of them. They taught me to survive by suspecting everyone, and actually made a stronger person. I have a much sharper mind, and my hearing is more sensitive from adapting.

As you see, I've had it hard for about 1/2 my life(so far), but I don't let that affect my view much. Try not to let your past cloud your common sense.
If you talk about killing everyone, it's going to get you in trouble someday.

We all start with 10 fingers. Those with Spydies have 9 to spare, Still need a thumb. Good thing I still have 8 to spare...

[vampyrewolf]

So knifes were your salvation? So knifes do have a sence, they help. So why are people afraid that knifes will be forbidden? We now have proof that it helps even mentally.

[vampyrewolf]

April 2000, I had an arguement, and it escalated(at school).

It ended up with him coming up to me after school(as I waited for the bus) wearing steel toed cowboy boots. He saw my knife clipped to my pocket, and ran inside to report it. I got suspended for a day for having my Delica at school(as I had since I got it in summer of 99)

Knives have been my salvation, giving me hope, but they also created the only stain on my personal record. Up until that point, I had yet to get anything negative on my record in all my schooling, and that still is the only thing on it.

I had a simple pocket knife, with a sub-2&quot;(slipjoint) blade taken away in elementary many, many times... always given back to me. I'd be leaning my nails and it would be seen.

I got a 3&quot; lockblade(POS) in grade 6, and it wasn't taken at all.

I was confronted while I was out biking(about 3yrs ago), and the kid had a 6&quot; fillet knife. I brought out the POS 3&quot; and the other kid ran like hell. He was between me and my bike, and I had stopped for a water break. Had the kid reported it, I could have been charged.

Knives are not the salvation, they are only a different path of destruction. They have both sides.

We all start with 10 fingers. Those with Spydies have 9 to spare, Still need a thumb. Good thing I still have 8 to spare...

[bengaiser]

That sounds rather interesting. So tell me, how did the situation between you and the kid started? Why did he confronted you?

Did you ever have to use it on him? Just for defence? Like a scratch or a cut or something else that made him bleed?

Knives gave you hope. They supported you during your childhood. People who have support from some things start to talk to it and sometimes kiss it. Did you?


Dr. Hannibal Lecter

Edited by - Hannibal on 8/26/2001 12:46:54 PM

[chinook]

Shivvvver....

That's enuf for me, I'm out of this thread.

[Caleb]

Why is that Chinook? What are you afraid of? You're on a forum. What's the worst thing that could happen?

<img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

[br44]

Vampirewolf, the main thing I'm interested in is why the kid confronted you and why others did. What was the reason?

Like with 80L, I'm juist curious.

[Clay Kesting]

Hannibal,

I have no need to attribute any thoughts that I have about you or your posts to a fictional friend. I think that I have already made my feelings perfectly clear. I posted my friends comments to show that I was not the only one who reacted in that way. I will not give you his email address as that would be an invasion of his privacy.

I resent the implication that I am a liar.

Clay

Don't worry that the world might end tomorrow, in Australia it's tomorrow already.

[ruxton]

well i've been following this thread with interest, i'm not gonna say nething about &quot;hannibals&quot; comments but i was reading vampyrewolfs lil story thought you might find this amusing...
waay back in year nine (14ish) i got caught with a knife in school too. my swiss army cybertool. i found myself in front of the deputy headmistress dabating as to why i had it, (before i go on i should explain that i'm not some weird sicko) she said a knife is a weapon i said this one wasn't it was a tool, she said it could be used as a weapon, i said so could this pencil. then she starts going on about how everyone would start bringing knives in if she let me (granted i can see her point) then she goes on about how other ppl with less self restrain than myself could lose it and stab someone in a fight, i said most school fights happen in a classroom, most are over in less than a minute, and most aren't true fights nbut more &quot;wrestling&quot; and if i was in a fight i couldn't get it out in time let alone open the bladeso she starts to demonstrate how easily it can be used as an offensive weapon. evidently she hadn't used a swiss army b4, first she dropped it on the floor, then to my amazement dropped it again, then she suceeded in getting the scisors out, then the can opener, (at this point i was faking a coughing fit to hide the laughter) finally she got the knife out and stabbed her table. the whole thing musta taken 5 minutes! in the end she just returned it and didn't bother suspending me. at least i didn't get caught with my harpy...
Mat

Edited by - ruxton on 8/26/2001 4:55:12 PM

[vampyrewolf]

If I remember correctly...

WAY back in kindergarten, I was using something and one of them grabbed it. I kicked the crap out of him(didn't have anything other than quiet-time for it). Then starting grade 1, they started to team up on me, after loosing in 1(or 2) on 1. It seems thier relexes weren't as good.

I have yet to draw blood from anything other than myself(play with fire...). The confrontation with the 6&quot; was one of the kids the started on me in about grade 3 or 4. He knew I had the 3&quot; at school, and I figure he didn't think I would be carrying it still. Had it loosened up enough, drop opened it as soon as I saw his knife...

The funny part is, I know many vital areas to strike, I used to know about 50 pressure points to disable someone in only a couple hits, and with no formal training. I use speed, relexes, and flexibility to my advantage. I may end up making a blow to your spine as you rush me, but you'll feel it.

We all start with 10 fingers. Those with Spydies have 9 to spare, Still need a thumb. Good thing I still have 8 to spare...

[Jeff/1911]

Folks,

I'd like to suggest that we all just ignore Mr. Hannibal for awhile, until he loses interest and goes somewhere else.

I will not be responding to him directly in this thread.

Jeff/1911.

[Jeff/1911]

Oh really Jeff? Why would you do that? VampireWolf you can allways speak to me. I'm not hurting you, am I? And if so, you can allways tell me. <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle> Now, we've got that cleared up Jeff, therre's no reason to ignore me, you know.

So Ruxton, you have a Harpy? Serrated? Did anyone ever see it at school? That could've been a lot of fun. I think the Harpy wouldn't make a big impression because it's not very big, is it? But at the end when you make a cut... on paper <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle> then he'll see what you mean I think. It must be razor sharp huh?

&quot;The funny part is, I know many vital areas to strike&quot;

VampireWolf, people on this FOrum would call that sick. Better stop saying that! But let's talk about that. What vital spots do you happen to know?


Dr. Hannibal Lecter

[Jeff/1911]

Oh and Clay, it's ok for not giving me the e-mail. I wasn't really gonna use it anyway. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

Ciao.

[Mr Blonde]

Hannibal, do you have any idea what Spyderco is all about? What its philosophy is? Do you have any interest to learn about these things? You are seriously misguided in your attitude towards: knives, violence, and life.
You are seriously defacing this forum and the people who make it happen. Why don't you direct your &quot;questions&quot; to the MBC forum? Are you afraid of the answers the professionals will give you? Your pubescent ranting is annoying and irritating. Grow up, eikel.

[Caleb]

Blondie, I haven't even been there yet. Yes, I'll taunt them with my messages too. <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

Of course I will, but later. This Topic isn't over yet.

[Paul Rouleau]

Are there any Dutch people in here who know a good link to a Dutch knife site which also sells Spyderco's?

Thank you.

[Jazzman]

This is beyond stupidity. Hannibal, grow up a bit and then come back and talk about knives will you? You aren't being funny and you certainly aren't making any friends or impressing anyone. You must have responded to this post 30+ times. Why do you insist on trying to make people upset? All you are doing is making people roll their eyes.Oh, and BTW, obcessions are never healthy.
Good luck in the real world,
Matt

[Ashram]

Matt I'm being misunderstood. I'm not trying to be funny, I'm not trying to upset people, unless they try to upset me.

Matt you are the somaniest person who gives his oppinion about me. I think you're in the wrong Topic. You're all giving your oppinion about me, but when I would give mine about you, I'd be called sick and disturbed, while I'm just not really subtile.


Hannibal Lecter, Dr

[J Smith]

Where are the MODERATORS? I would not hesatate in killing someone in defense of myself,family,or country. I have not been reading this topic but noticed a reply tonight and I read the whole thing. I belive the moderators should erase this topic. It apears that hannibal might go over the edge and try some of the things he saw in the movie. THE REPLYS HE IS POSTING SHOULD NOT BE HERE!!!! THINGS LIKE THIS IS WHAT SCARES LAWMAKERS INTO PASSING BAD LAWS!!






J Smith

[J Smith]

Smith you're repeating the last message. Would you happen to have the Syndrome of Gilles de la Tourette?

When you start to get those ticks you could repeat words and even a sentence. No? Ok. At the moment I have no intensions of harming anyone except me. When I would I'll let you know, kay? <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

My, My this is getting more amusing every post on.

So, the Civilian is a defence weapon right? Well for me it's really too expensive as I'm only using my knifes for my collection, however I like it. How long is the blade?

[gadfly]

YOu would not hesitate killing someone for your Country? Are you serious? I think that's sick. Maybe I just don't understand it so I'd like you to explain it to me.

Would you kill someone infront of you? Anyone with a wife and children, screaming and crying, and then you start stabbing him, leaving him to bleed to death, his wife closing the wounds with her close and the kids, watching how their daddy dies. Would you do that for your country?

I probably wouldn't even do that for myself, probably because I dont see the point in it.

[ruxton]

this thread is getting more disturbing every time i check it, 100 posts now, doesn't anybody have anything better to do? someone should answer any questions hannibal has regarding knives then close this thread
mat

[CalypsoKid]

If you are upset with Hannable and what he says, don't respond to him and he will go away. He seeks attention and by responding to him, you are giving him what he wants. Ignore him and he will go away.

Of course for some of you this will be nearly impossible.

~C

[Toolin]

Ah Calypsochild. You are trying to turn everybody against me? <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle> Very cute. I'm well familliar with living in a world full of quiet people, you could allmost say, dead people, no I do not spend my time at a graveyard however it could both amusing as quiet.

Calypso, you're writing my name wrong. It's Hannibal, not Hannible. There is a sickness in the brain, I don't know it's name but it's effect is that the person starts pronouncing the words or letters instead of the one's he reads. I think they're just being lazy but who knows it might be for real.


Hannibal Lecter, Dr

[scolby]

Yo Hannybull. Just thought I would chip in here.

As I recall, the fictional character Dr. Lecter was infatuated with the finest of everything. I suspect by your inability to afford the Civilian that you share neither the taste nor the resources of the fictional character. So if you are not going whole hog, then why bother playing out this particular fantasy?

I would constructively suggest that you spend some time on Bladeforums Whine &amp; Cheese forum, where your fantasy might be more readily indulged.

"Chance favors the prepared mind" - Louis Pasteur

[Jeff/1911]

I do have enough money for the Civillian or Harpy, only I find it a waste to spend it now. If I wait a little longer then I will have enough money left too.

For the Dutch people in here would definetly understand me. I've got like 720,- guilders, I could buy them both but If I could spare up to 800 or maybe 1000,- Guilders then I could even buy bouth and still have enough to spare for other things.

Surely I have enough money on my account but I'm not going to spend that on knifes. I'm not using them for anything, probably, just for a collection.

Hannibal Lecter, Dr

[Jeff/1911]

Ok, VampyreWolf, back to you.

About the last conversation you and I had, you said that you knew all the vital area's. I cant see why you would need to know those.

Why would you? Explain that to me. Surprise me with your knowledge.

[vampyrewolf]

it's quite simple to find these areas. Simply aim for large concentrations of nerve endings or blood vessels.

for example, one highly overlooked spot is about 3 inches under the armpit. The ribs bruise VERY easy from a strong blow here, and the tissue is very thin.

have you ever seen a knee shattered into about 20 pieces(nearly powder considering it's size)? Strike with 15-18lbs of pressure, 30degrees out, 30degrees up.

Strikes to the collerbone will nearly always break it. Stabs are 80% fatal(medical figures).

if you look in most Martial Arts textbooks, you can find the chart of pressure points. I used to know about 50, 20 of which could kill. The chinese culture has the more advanced charts.

if you really want to get brutal, go back to the spanish inquisition.
-hard soled boots(normally steel), concrete floor.
-male prisoner
-crush one, he lives in extreme pain, let rest a couple days, repeat on 2nd
-crush both at the same time and the prisoner died

it gets worse from there. simply do research.

We all start with 10 fingers. Those with Spydies have 9 to spare, Still need a thumb. Good thing I still have 8 to spare...

[kraziekurtis]

Edited by - kraziekurtis on 3/26/2002 3:12:08 PM

[kraziekurtis]

Edited by - kraziekurtis on 3/26/2002 3:14:31 PM

[br44]

Hannibal, I believe you've had something in the dike too long. Pull it out! Okie Dokie

[br44]

If you have read my topic fully then you would find yourself a little rediculous right now posting the same message over and over again. Stop bothering me.

You keep opening that subject like a child who is opening his wound out of interest. You are opening the wound that keeps hurting people so dont touch it.

VampyreWolf how nice of you to respond. I didn't thought you would. That is very interesting you know. So you're not the person to approach unarmed? <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

Tell me. What would you do when someone approached you with a knife. What would you do? How would you react? Since you carry knifes I'm interested in how you'd react.

And Kraziekurtis, having a taste for violence is disturbed. We are all sick and disturbed, all in a different way. You judge too fast too.


Hannibal Lecter, Dr

[Caleb]

Hi everyone.
What are hard soled boots perhaps steel toe??
If it's steel toe i want to say that they are very useful(I have some pairs of these boots:DR martens,M ploy,magnum leather steel toes)I've never use this on anybody but i 've buy this to avoid contact with my opponent.(in the case of fighting,i will never bother anybody to make fight

P.S.I'm not DISTURBED but i want to live my life ENTIRELY and i don't want die in front of a skinhead,or other stupid guy.It is the survival instinct(perhaps i'm paranoid but i know it!!!)

HERESY'S not a crime.In the knives we trust,not in gods

[hy]

Yes, skinheads and those kind of people are the lowest form of life possible.

From top to bottom I'd say it goes something like this.

God

Animals

Black and White people

Bugs and bacterias

Skinheads.

That's the way I see it, but why'd you bring up the skinheads? Ever been confronted by one? Is that it?


Hannibal Lecter, Dr

Edited by - Hannibal on 8/30/2001 5:21:13 AM

[stu]

Mandible,

You are too much.

stu

[Caleb]

Hi hannibal i agree this but i'll remove GOD
and for me all skin colors are equal(not only black and white peoples).
I want also to know your age.

HERESY'S not a crime.In the knives we trust,not in gods

[Caleb]

I had never to fight with skinheads but they are really stupids(I see a lot of them at school and even talk with they:their ideas are too low&gt;they drink a lot of alcohol but they criticize DRUGS&gt;alcohol is a HARD DRUG and they bother me with their racist and homophob attitude!!!)

HERESY'S not a crime.In the knives we trust,not in gods

[Caleb]

My God, you're not seeying that racistic are you?

I said black and white, ok, the other colors are also equal. Gheesh. I'm getting the feeling I'm not on a knife Forum anymore.

I'm allmost 17.

Edited by - Hannibal on 8/30/2001 8:53:12 AM

[Caleb]

And you Caleb?

[Caleb]

Sorry but i forgot to say in my school some of racist people call me SKINHEAD because i wear combat shoes and i'm often dressed in black also i have some 'stange music' taste(if i tell you what music i like, you will not talk to me after).

HERESY'S not a crime.In the knives we trust,not in gods

[Caleb]

I'm 16

HERESY'S not a crime.In the knives we trust,not in gods

[vampyrewolf]

I say hard soled(normally steel) because they had both hard rubber, and actual steel bottomed boots.

I wear steel-toed combat boots, all day everyday, myself. Boots weigh about 5lbs for the pair.

Hannibal, when confronted with a knife, my brain follows a set path... follow down, if yes: stop and do, if no: next step
-escape?
-more than 3:1 ratio(pack instinct, remove leader)
-easy access to knives(clothing in the way, move shirt and such)
-reaction to double draw?(2 in 2): normally they run like hell
----(normally stops here, but continued if needed to<img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>
-position knives to: right: forward, left: reverse
-strike arms and legs with knives as they strike. I place left knife reverse grip for legs.
-hope like hell they decide to move on to easier prey after a few strikes.

if 1-2:1 ratio, the knives stay away until strikes to collerbone and legs don't work.

I can put out 450lbs with my legs, and my benchpress is only 120lbs. I rely on my legs and the steel-toed boots to do the most damage when confronted.

as you can see, escape is the first thing. this means either talking them out of it, or running like hell. it was my father's bike, and worth about $7,000, so I wasn't about to leave it.



We all start with 10 fingers. Those with Spydies have 9 to spare, Still need a thumb. Good thing I still have 8 to spare...

[Tom Percy]

Yes, I can imagine you wouldn't.

So Caleb, I'm very interested in what kind of music you are interested. Its ok, even if you told me I'd still talk to you. I have no excuses for not to. If I would, I would be just like the people that don't want to talk to me anymore.

Go on. Surprise me. Shock me. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>


Hannibal Lecter, M.D.

[Caleb]

I like Marilyn manson,Nine inch nails and generally Metal.

HERESY'S not a crime.In the knives we trust,not in gods

[kraziekurtis]

Edited by - kraziekurtis on 3/26/2002 3:17:08 PM

[vampyrewolf]

it's no worse than my choice...

CELTIC music and rap(eminem, dre, nas)

We all start with 10 fingers. Those with Spydies have 9 to spare, Still need a thumb. Good thing I still have 8 to spare...

[Caleb]

VW&gt;I agree but some peoples dislike Manson at the point to call me skinhead but manson isn't racist it is just a little excentric and he sees the world like the world is really!!

HERESY'S not a crime.In the knives we trust,not in gods

[xcentrix]

That's good, Caleb. I happen to like, Rammstein, Megaherz, Oomph! and other bands, as long as it's Industrial Metal.

I heard Oomph! was written down as psyhco-metal but I don't think that's a category at all...

I also like Megadeth, Metallica, Fear Factory, Pantera, Dimmu Borgir (just some a few songs) and softer music. Anything with a beautiful tone in it. That's why I like Rammstein so much.


Hannibal Lecter, M.D.

[xcentrix]

Kraziekurtis, who's calling that bad things? Hannibal was cleaning up this planet. He got rid of the 'free range rudes'. I cant say he's wrong about that. Were living in a nasty world, and people like him can make it better.

The world has cancer, and Hannibal could cut the cancer out. But of course he doesn't excist. I know.


Hannibal Lecter, M.D.

[Caleb]

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOD choices.I also like RAMMSTEIN,metallica(especially RIDE THE LIGHTNING and SM)FEAR FACTORY(only DEMANUFACTURE)NIRVANA was the first rock band(i know this style is called GRUNGE) what i've listen and love.Do you know TESTAMENT?

HERESY'S not a crime.In the knives we trust,not in gods

[kraziekurtis]

Edited by - kraziekurtis on 3/26/2002 3:16:38 PM

[kraziekurtis]

Edited by - kraziekurtis on 3/26/2002 3:16:43 PM

[Gatekeeper]

Why thank you, I must've heard that compliment over a dosen of times now. Even in real life. Oh I think you're being part of the rude right now. Telling me to shut up is rude. You're not letting me stand up for my oppinion and decisions.

So tell me kraziekurtis, are both of your parents still alive? I'm interested. I'm listening. Let's see if you can get insulted too.


Hannibal Lecter, M.D.

Edited by - Hannibal on 8/30/2001 2:00:05 PM

[Gatekeeper]

Caleb, I'm a big fan of Rammstein. If you like Rammstein and wish it was a little harder, you should definetly try Oomph!
About Fear Factory, I like Zero signal, Cars and Full Metal Contact. Also I like A therapy For Pain.

Metallica's SM, they made a good choice allright.

The band you mensioned does not sound familliar to me. I'm sorry.


Hannibal Lecter, M.D.

[kraziekurtis]

Edited by - kraziekurtis on 3/26/2002 3:19:31 PM

[kraziekurtis]

Edited by - kraziekurtis on 3/26/2002 3:18:43 PM

[kraziekurtis]

I wasn't threatning when I asked about your parents. So are they in perfect health? How old are they? I'm just interested.

Looks like I'm starting to annoy someone here. Very interesting. Would you like to see me bleed? Would you like to see me kneel in a pool of my own blood, and would you taste it, like I taste my own whenver I feel like it? I'm not allways trying to be like Hannibal, I'm also trying to be myself.

You aren't really as solid as other people on this Forum are. Are you young? Most people here are wise enough not to start swearing and react on my messages, they just tell me I'm sick, insane and should stop the bull**** and turn my back to what I want to be. You however, turn up agressively...

Stop acting like an immature child. Show me you're build against people like me. Be wise and don't talk to me, or talk to me on a civil way. You stay pollight, and so will I.


Hannibal Lecter, Dr

Edited by - Hannibal on 8/30/2001 2:27:21 PM

[kraziekurtis]

Edited by - kraziekurtis on 3/26/2002 3:21:36 PM

[The Stare]

Inaccurate. You're going into the total wrong direction. There was nothing wrong with my parents. Neither was there with the way they raised me. They did it well.

Hannibal Lecter, M.D.

[kraziekurtis]

Edited by - kraziekurtis on 3/26/2002 3:24:07 PM

[kraziekurtis]

Testament, doesn't say anything to me Caleb. What is it? Death-Metal? I'm not really fond on death-metal. It's too fast. Rammstein is hard, but not really fast. I like a solid rythem like Rammstein mostly does. And you?


Hannibal Lecter, M.D.

[The Stare]

I meant there was nothing wrong with the way they raised me. No. Being obsessed with a movie like Hannibal is entertainment to me. I like it, and bit by bit, I find the personality I want to be.


Hannibal Lecter, M.D.

[kraziekurtis]

well you certaintly didn't type what you meant now did you... you would think some idiot that tries to act like a crazed genius would also try to portray the genius side also..but i guess stupid people must like remaining stupid...

[Jazzman]

Hannibal, you need help. Oh, and put the dictionary down, your attempt at trying to sound like you are actually intelligent is failing. I don't know even why people are bothering with you. I don't even know why I'm posting here for a second time. The bottom line is, you need to grow up. No one wants to hear you talk, especially about how you taste your bodily fluids or whatever you say you do. Drop your little fantasy, then come back and talk about knives.
Matt

[kraziekurtis]

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