Sal, how about that Damasteel?

[zenheretic]

Yes, inquiring minds wish to know. Any thoughts on some damasteel or other damascus stuff to be offered?

[Manix Guy 2]

Great question Mr. Zen ! Me too ! Zenheretic would you like to see it in a new model or updated model in current line up , Sprint run , or even fixed blade ? All sound tempting .

[Th232]

Sounds good to me! Probably have to be a sprint run though, given the cost of Damasteel.

I'd vote for:

Cricket or Lava (could help keep the cost down as well, unless you want damasteel handles, *nudge*)
Kris (how cool would that be?!?)

[zenheretic]

Great question Mr. Zen ! Me too ! Zenheretic would you like to see it in a new model or updated model in current line up , Sprint run , or even fixed blade ? All sound tempting .
Well it would be a cruel joke (too Deacon) if it went into some of the knives in the lineup. Personally a clipless :eek: Kopa with polished bolsters and desert ironwood inserts would be a good choice. :)

[zenheretic]

Mini persian would look good too...

[Jenner 515]

I vote Mini Persian...

Wasn't there a picture of a prototype Mini Persian in Damasteel floating around?

[Jenner 515]

Here we go.

[butch]

sorry for me it would be a TI and damasteel cricket keeping it small would help with the cost brake down

tho the kopa sounds like a winner too even if i not a big fan of the shape

[huugh]

Well, (SS) damascus is fine for handles (visual appearance) but IMHO it bears no benefit when used for blade... (not to mention the cost)

[Rogcohen]

I'm sure I could never afford one anyway, but that Persian... In a word, drool.

[smcfalls13]

Well it would be a cruel joke (too Deacon) if it went into some of the knives in the lineup. Personally a clipless :eek: Kopa with polished bolsters and desert ironwood inserts would be a good choice. :)

Yes.

Need 10 characters.:cool:

[bh49]

Personally a clipless :eek: Kopa with polished bolsters and desert ironwood inserts would be a good choice. :)

Thank you.
You have not just read my mind; you did much better than that. :)

[spydutch]

Personally a clipless :eek: Kopa with polished bolsters and desert ironwood inserts would be a good choice. :)

I guess this would make one particular fellow forumite a very happy man:confused: :D

[rcbalt2]

I vote for zen's idea. Sounds good to me or maybe a mini persian with damasteel and desert ironwood

[Jurphaas]

Hi Guys - Be prepared for a dissapointment :eek: . I've been pestering Sal for years about Damascus and the only answer I got was "does it cut any better?"
Sal will probably explain to you that Spyderco is all about High Tech preformance in cutting. As long there is no proof in Sal's mind about better performance as the high speed steels we use, there will be no damascus bladed Spyderco. Sal is in no way prepared to settle for "eye candy".

Jurphaas. :)

[butch]

you nkow i heard that someone makes cpm3v adn cpm154 mix damascuss bars
you cant tell me thats not high performance

[edkrueger]

you nkow i heard that someone makes cpm3v adn cpm154 mix damascuss bars
you cant tell me thats not high performance
It isn't. At least is not not as good as either of the steels pure. Pattern Weld looks great. I some what fond of it, but its not true damaskus.

[zenheretic]

Well I have trouble believing anyone is looking for "HIGH PERFORMANCE" when they buy a Damascus blade. Although a Kopa is certainly up to any normal knife job for a blade its size, I doubt the gent's knife crowd would be using a Damascus Kopa to hack there way out of an undisclosed location late at night or use it to chop into a metal chair for no particular reason. I envision it in office pants, Sunday best, wedding tuxs, Christmas dinner cloths and the like.

[The Deacon]

Zen, I've resigned myself to the reality that if I want damascus and a round hole on the same knife, I have to find someone willing and able to legally make one for me. The one Boker put out really hurt, darn thing had to be a RH liner lock. Have a LH One-Eye-Jack on order from A. T. Barr, in Devin Thomas raindrop stainless damascus, that will go into my pocket the day it arrives. Still would like to find someone able to heavily customize a Stretch for me - Damasteel blade, dent-free lockbar, bolster & scales handles, and the original lockspring an backspacer.

[Manix Guy 2]

I love this ! OK small may be better Kopa great platform Zen . BUT ! What about the Schempp connection ? No one has ever thought to see the future Spyderco non stainless FB or otherwise but it is in the works ! Sprint run may be the result or Anniversary model ?

[zenheretic]

Zen, I've resigned myself to the reality that if I want damascus and a round hole on the same knife, I have to find someone willing and able to legally make one for me. The one Boker put out really hurt, darn thing had to be a RH liner lock. Have a LH One-Eye-Jack on order from A. T. Barr, in Devin Thomas raindrop stainless damascus, that will go into my pocket the day it arrives. Still would like to find someone able to heavily customize a Stretch for me - Damasteel blade, dent-free lockbar, bolster & scales handles, and the original lockspring an backspacer.
I don't know Deac., this thread is carrying more interest than me and you talking back and forth like last year. I'm digging my heals in, maybe drink some raw eggs, punch some frozen cow shanks, do a bit of shadowboxing while I run...got to not give up hope. :D

[fellyjr]

I don't know Deac., this thread is carrying more interest than me and you talking back and forth like last year. I'm digging my heals in, maybe drink some raw eggs, punch some frozen cow shanks, do a bit of shadowboxing while I run...got to not give up hope. :D

Yo, Adrian!:D :D :D

[rcbalt2]

I don't know Deac., this thread is carrying more interest than me and you talking back and forth like last year. I'm digging my heals in, maybe drink some raw eggs, punch some frozen cow shanks, do a bit of shadowboxing while I run...got to not give up hope. :D
It's Not Over:D :spyder: :spyder:

[jaislandboy]

"a clipless Kopa with polished bolsters and desert ironwood inserts would be a good choice..."

yeah Zen this would be All I need.....u can keep your damasteel....;) :rolleyes: :D

[dialex]

Hi Guys - Be prepared for a dissapointment :eek: . I've been pestering Sal for years about Damascus and the only answer I got was "does it cut any better?"
Sal will probably explain to you that Spyderco is all about High Tech preformance in cutting. As long there is no proof in Sal's mind about better performance as the high speed steels we use, there will be no damascus bladed Spyderco. Sal is in no way prepared to settle for "eye candy".

Jurphaas. :)

Hi Jur,
I'd ask Sal if putting apple coral handles makes the knife cut better... :rolleyes:
So I'd say yes, make a Persian (full size) with Damascus blade, Damascus bolsters like at the anniversary Delica (shouldn't be such a tough job, since it's the same Ed that made those too), and stag handles. Dentless lock, of course. Also titanium liners and sculpted (anodized titanium) backspacer.
As for the clip, I'd put a very discrete clip fixed with a screw at the butt of the knife (like there is at certain pens).
No need to clap your hands, throw with money instead. :p

[zenheretic]

This whole "Sal only adds materials for performance" is a myth. The Kopa series, to a lesser extent the Kiwi series, that little fancy smancy Delica all point to broader minded Sal.

[The Deacon]

Well in fact, Spyderco has already "done" damascus, in the form of the Zowada Worker. If the darn thing was PE, there'd have been one less intact Evo set in the world for a couple years now. :D In a way, that highlights the problem. A knife made with quality damascus will be expensive, no way around that, and for almost all of us, the more money a knife costs, the less willing we are to compromise on "little details" like blade length, lock type, edge type, blade pattern, handle construction and materials, etc.

Using the damsteel Kopa as an example, I'd buy one if it had a clip, just to keep my Kopa collection complete, perhaps even a second to carry as a money clip. But, if it had no clip I'd buy a few, one for the collection, one to carry "stock", and several to have Bill Wirtel and his crew molest for me. :D So, in that regard, I'd be less picky about scale material than some might be.

[jaislandboy]

...But, if it had no clip I'd buy a few, one for the collection, one to carry "stock", and several to have Bill Wirtel and his crew molest for me...

Yeah Paul! I'm all about a clipless Kopa....! the clip hides that "other" gorgeous inlay....so like on my Cocobolo Kopa.....the clipside inlay can't get the attention it deserves....i.e. I can't fondle / caress/ flitzwax that clipside inlay (like I do to the clipless side...;) ) so I feel somewhat cheated!:eek: :p :D

[Big-Target]

I can still imagine an FRN damascus Delica/Endura(including WAVE series).

It would be quite the collector's item;)

[Jenner 515]

How about a Damasteel Lava?

I could get my brain around that idea...anybody good enough with Photoshop to tweak a picture of one...what does DAYWALKER think?

[Big-Target]

How about a Damasteel Lava?

I could get my brain around that idea...anybody good enough with Photoshop to tweak a picture of one...what does DAYWALKER think?

Hmmmmmmmmm!!!!!;) :rolleyes:

[cobrajoe]

How about a Damasteel Lava?

I could get my brain around that idea...anybody good enough with Photoshop to tweak a picture of one...what does DAYWALKER think?
Yummy. I think it would be even sweeter with polished bolsters and some nice wood, like ironwood :D

[bh49]

I think, Zen's idea about Kopa is the best. Persian is also very good, but I prefer clipless.

[zenheretic]

Heck could even have Kopa with damasteel blade and without the scale to keep costs down. Although I wonder if people would buy an unfinished knife.

[bh49]

Heck could even have Kopa with damasteel blade and without the scale to keep costs down. Although I wonder if people would buy an unfinished knife.

I really prefer your original idea with desert ironwood.

[zenheretic]

I really prefer your original idea with desert ironwood.
Desert ironwood, with or without the clip, it makes no difference...damasteel or other damascus too.:cool: