12/21/2012 : the end?

[AllenETreat]

I caught the History Channel last night regarding
the Maya calendar ( which end's on December 21, 2012 :eek: )
and the other predictions, like when the I Ching charts
( totaling 64 ) were multiplied by 64...

It get's real strange.

Point of it all was : everything seem's to point to the date
of 12/21/2012. There was even a computerized random generation
program called web-bot that was originally used for Wall Street
investors that was applied to the InterNet...

...it too arived at 12/21/2012.

Here's a link about the Maya calendar :

http://www.exitmundi.nl/Maya.htm


The History Channel concluded that, on that date the earth moon &
sun will be in perfect alignment ( for the first time in 25,800yrs! :eek: )
and that, scientists predict, the earth's axis ( polarity ) may indeed shift.

I hope you got alot of foul weather gear ( and a boat )!

The clock is ticking ( approximetely 5yrs remain )

I think I'll just sit this one out.


What say the augurers?

AET :D

[224477]

I dont like scary messages like this ;)

[RLR]

To he!! with the 401K and RRSP plans... spend now!!! BWAHAHAHA...

Agreed it's kind of odd, and I can't say that I won't think about it on the eve of the date, even if I am not really superstitious, etc...

I knew about the Mayans, but not the other stuff...

[sal]

Hi Allen,

There is no sun / moon aspect on that day.

According to the Ephemeris, the Sun goes into Capricorn and the moon is still in Aries.

Conjunction occurs on the 13th.

Opposition on the 28th.

sal

[snuffaluff]

I think if Jesus comes back on that day or any other day, that's fine with me.

[Darkfin]

WHEW! Thanks for pointing that out, Sal! I was getting worried there for a minute!
(Me in my tinfoil hat --->http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/images/smilies/tinfoilhat.gif)

[TeamAlan]

Being as I am teaching the mayans to my 7th graders, as I understand it the "end of the world" is also the start of a new world, as their calendars used cycles of time. So right now we are in the "5th world" as part of a 5,200 year short cycle, and at the end of a 26,000 year long cycle, at which a new long cycle and short cycle will begin. It is believed that not all people/ creatures lived through to each new world, but it is a transition that happens over time. I believe the downfall of the maya also coincided with an end to a short cycle, although only their cities in the southern lowlands were abandonned while cities in the north continued.

[zenheretic]

If I could predict things, I would work on Wall Street, but since I can't and no one else can either, well then I'm not going to worry about it. I could throw a clot at any time and die so there we are.

The number one cause of death is being alive so maybe we should ban being alive. Think of the children!

By most accounts, in my lifetime we have surpassed any previous pinnacle in known human history. It is a great time to be alive in a first world country. Should the Earth rotate its magnetic poles or anything else that would crush the human virus...well at least I spent countless hours on the net yapping at you guys. :p

[Derkomai]

The end of the world cannot be on 12.21.2012, because on friday's I always have to go to my mother-in-law!:D

[Jacks]

And don't forget to watch out for Y2K !!! and remember 06 06 '06. And remember that earthquake back in 1991 that put California into the ocean, everyone died. Naustradumbass said it, it must be so. :D

[thefly01]

Derkomai freakin,deakin hilarious!:D

[Axlis]

I think if Jesus comes back on that day or any other day, that's fine with me.
Ditto, God Bless You!:)

[ozspyder]

The end of the world cannot be on 12.21.2012, because on friday's I always have to go to my mother-in-law!:D

ROFLMAO Derkomai.... does that mean the world ends for you every Friday and you are reborn again every Saturday ? ;) :D

so on 12.21.2012 you might have an excuse NOT to go to your MIL's place .... :)

[Derkomai]

Derkomai’s official point of view is that he loves his mother-in-law and acknowledge the fact that she is a loving and caring wise woman that is not be mocked with.:mad:

He also knows that it is in his best interest to visit her every Friday and do not come up with excuses like the end of the world, tummy each or ‘I have cut myself with a razor-sharp BM’. These kind of excuses are surmountable, insignificant or (in case of BM) implausible.:D

Greetings,

The Wife! :mad: (proud owner of a :spyder:SE Jester).:eek:

;)

[WORKER#9]

I am planning a BBQ for that day. Some ribs a few cold ones. should be nice.

[Ronald NL]

Dutch tax office would never allow the world to end on the 21st of december. They would miss out on 11 taxable days.

[java]

Sweet Cleopatra's Asp!!!!!! :eek: :eek:

I’m still too busy wrestling with the Y2K End of the World. I’m barely surviving in a faux post apocalyptic world as it is. I did the dance that allowed us to deftly doge the Hale-Bopp comet tail terror – well, except for those out of synch Heaven’s Gaters. I’ve shown the enraptured how to silently tiptoe past The Beast that appeared on 06/06/06. I jittered wildly from side to side on 05/05/2000 throwing the "perfect" alignment of the Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn ever so slightly off, preventing the polar shift and floods that were so glumly predicted. My advocacy for geothermal energy not only provided a cheaper cleaner energy source for the Left Coast, it provided a relief valve preventing James Kingsley’s predicted two-hour long 7.9 magnitude “Earthquake Storm" that was to strike Redondo Beach on 01/25/2006 wiping California off the map and creating devasting tsunamis world wide. I’ve prevailed upon the Pope, influenced Imams, nudged neo-pagan leaders, and edged most erstwhile eschatologists and their believers into keeping Gog and Magog, the anti-Christ, and the Hidden Imam at bay thus sidetracking Armageddon every frickin’ year since 1950. Now I need to get a boat to survive the ancient mesoamerican calendar crash????

Shades of Nostradamas,Von Däniken and Jim Jones! Have we ANY control over our destiny. What preposterous chicken-little EOTWAWKI forecasts are fomenting in the fecund fanciful feckless and fear filled faculties of fiction fourth-estaters from which java must forever fend??? I’m barely one step ahead of alien abductors, my tin-foil hat is wearing thin, and the black helicopters are circling closer….ever closer. I’ve done enough. You guys are on your own……………..

On the bright side we will trip lightly to that Restaurant at the End of the Universe knowing who won Super Bowl XLVI and the ’12 Presidential Election and we’ll see the Freedom Tower completed in NYC.

Meanwhile, java is busy stockpiling water - the universal solvent and a vital nutrient for his body’s caffeine system – and making sure it does not contact wild sources so he is prepared when the Ice-9 allotrope causes the end of civilization as we know it on 11/12/13.


Ice-9!! It’s not just a rippin’ Joe Satriani/Kurt Vonnegut creation any more!


That's right, we’re all doomed and you heard it here first. Don’t say I didn’t warn ya!!!!!!! :p







:D
J

[dialex]

The end of the world has been announced soo many times, so once more really doesn't matter. Little do realize the end of the world begun with the appearance of homo sapiens. It takes a lot of time, but slowly we'll finish that.

[Piet.S]

Derkomai’s official point of view is that he loves his mother-in-law and acknowledge the fact that she is a loving and caring wise woman that is not be mocked with.:mad:

He also knows that it is in his best interest to visit her every Friday and do not come up with excuses like the end of the world, tummy each or ‘I have cut myself with a razor-sharp BM’. These kind of excuses are surmountable, insignificant or (in case of BM) implausible.:D

Greetings,

The Wife! :mad: (proud owner of a :spyder:SE Jester).:eek:

;)

No ma'm, we weren't making any "schoonmoeder jokes", honest.
Now could you please take the icy stare away.
It's getting so cold here.

http://www.hondenhuys.nl/forumsmilies/bitterkoud.gif

[AllenETreat]

Ice-9!! It’s not just a rippin’ Joe Satriani/Kurt Vonnegut creation any more!


java / John / Andy / gang -

A Joe Satriani / Kurt Vonnegut creation! :eek: Time to go home &
pick up my axe and start playin' Bobby Dylan's subterranean homesick
blues! But first...

Anti-christ, 666? What exactly is the diabolical trinity?

The Good Book say's we're all marked by inperfection, or 6.
60 are the "powers that be" as the apostle Paul called them in Romans.
600 would be our old friend, Lucifer ( otherwise Satan, the devil, etc ).

Conclusion...

We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!

AET :D

[enduraguy]

Al Gore is the Anit Christ, everyone knows that! ;)

The Mayans were indeed an interesting people, but faiths from every corner of the planet have predicted the 'end of the world' since the first faith existed. We're not going anywhere anytime soon.

[java]

java / John / Andy / gang -

A Joe Satriani / Kurt Vonnegut creation! :eek: Time to go home &
pick up my axe and start playin' Bobby Dylan's subterranean homesick
blues! But first...

Anti-christ, 666? What exactly is the diabolical trinity?

The Good Book say's we're all marked by inperfection, or 6.
60 are the "powers that be" as the apostle Paul called them in Romans.
600 would be our old friend, Lucifer ( otherwise Satan, the devil, etc ).

Conclusion...

We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!

AET :D

Bobby pales after Java ripped him off with the "Indonesian Cat****e Blues"

( BFC - For the Coffee Gourmets thread (http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=345987&highlight=cat****) )

We've been the enemy for centuries....maybe it's time to surrender and seek agreeable terms rather than argue and orate the ordinals of augury.

To paraphrase REM......

That's great, it starts with an earthquake, birds and snakes, an aeroplane -
Lenny Bruce is not afraid. Eye of a hurricane, listen to yourself churn -
world serves its own needs, regardless of your own needs. Feed it up a knock,
speed, grunt no, strength no. Ladder structure clatter with fear of height,
down height. Wire in a fire, represent the seven games in a government for
hire and a combat site. Left her, wasn't coming in a hurry with the furies
breathing down your neck. Team by team reporters baffled, trump, tethered
crop. Look at that low plane! Fine then. Uh oh, overflow, population,
common group, but it'll do. Save yourself, serve yourself. World serves its
own needs, listen to your heart bleed. Tell me with the rapture and the
reverent in the right - right. You vitriolic, patriotic, slam, fight, bright
light, feeling pretty psyched.

Six o'clock - TV hour. Don't get caught in foreign tower.
Slash and burn, return, listen to yourself churn.
Lock him in uniform and book burning, blood letting.
Every motive escalate. Automotive incinerate.
Light a candle, light a motive.
Step down, step down. Watch a heel crush, crush.
Uh oh, this means no fear - cavalier.
Renegade and steer clear! A tournament, a tournament, a tournament of lies.
Offer me solutions, offer me alternatives and I decline.

The other night I tripped a nice continental drift divide. Mount St. Edelite.
Leonard Bernstein. Leonid Breshnev, Lenny Bruce and Lester Bangs.
Birthday party, cheesecake, jelly bean, boom! You symbiotic, patriotic,
slam, but neck, right? Right.

It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.....


We be doomed!!!!





:D
J

[cobrajoe]

And here I was thinking today is the end! 03/05/07 Three consecutive prime numbers! Ahhh!! Fire and Brimstone!!!


Wait, three prime numbers? I guess you could also say that todays is a "prime" day to get something done ;)

[JspyEDC]

anybody else hearing the 5th Dimension in the background....?

[Derkomai]

Well guys, not to worry, not to worry. As it turns out, my mother-in-law has a big saying in everything that has to do with end-of-the-world related events.:p

In exchange for my everlasting love and devotion to her beautiful daughter she is willing to pull some strings and stop the wheels that are in motion, and delay the whole Mayan/ I Ching/ Anti-Christ disaster that is threatening us, for while, so we can keep on going collect :spyder:'s until we are old and wrinkly (just like my moth…… :eek: ouch……

:D

[Piet.S]

When you get home and there is a broomstick next to the door, you know she's there?

http://www.hondenhuys.nl/forumsmilies/wolk.gif

[AllenETreat]

anybody else hearing the 5th Dimension in the background....?

jspyEDC -

Man, do I remember the 5th Dimension ( circa 1969 )!

When the moon is in the seventh house
And jupiter aligns with mars
Then peace will guide the planets
And love will steer the stars

This is the dawning of the age of aquarius
Age of aquarius
Aquarius
Aquarius

Harmony and understanding
Sympathy and trust abounding
No more lies and no derisions
Golden living dreams of visions
Mystic crystal revelation
And the minds true liberation
Aquarius
Aquarius

Let the sunshine
Let the sunshine in
The sunshine in

Let the sunshine
Let the sunshine in
The sunshine in

Let the sunshine
Let the sunshine in
The sunshine in


Time to drop some LSD.


AET :D

[Agent Starling]

well it's good entertainment, at the very least....

[Piet.S]

well it's good entertainment, at the very least....

Agree, specialy like "Derkomai's wive's" reaction.
Nice proza.

[Chucula]

I saw that program on the History Channel and was prompted to assemble a very basic survival kit :D

Even if nothing happens, I figure its good to have a little survival kit.

[clovisc]

hopefully by this date, i will have reached my 100th spyderco.

i think the end of the world as we know it will occur when artificial intelligence of computers gets good enough that they can program and build themselves, and are able to give us a definitive solution to superstring theory / "theory of everything" / m-theory. this, at least, isn't too far off... the rate at which human knowledge of the universe will expand and solutions to our most difficult problems will be generated will be incredible.

[WORKER#9]

I saw that program on the History Channel and was prompted to assemble a very basic survival kit :D

Even if nothing happens, I figure its good to have a little survival kit.

What did you put in the kit to help you survive the end of the world?:D

I put a six pack and a bottle of whiskey in my end of the world survival kit!

[zenheretic]

What did you put in the kit to help you survive the end of the world?:D

I put a six pack and a bottle of whiskey in my end of the world survival kit!
A kit like that needs a few good cigars, a .44 magnum, c4 explosive, flavored lube, and a bottle of pink grapefruit cocktail.

[clovisc]

whisky sounds good for the apocalypse... :D

after numerous close-up encounters with mambas and cobras, i used to keep at least half a bottle of scotch ready at all times, in the case of the end of MY world. closest i got was spat on one evening by a 7.5 foot spitting cobra with a head as big as the palm of my hand... that was worth a couple shots... :D

never thought about the pink lube... :D

[untamed]

Being as I am teaching the mayans to my 7th graders, as I understand it the "end of the world" is also the start of a new world, as their calendars used cycles of time. So right now we are in the "5th world" as part of a 5,200 year short cycle, and at the end of a 26,000 year long cycle, at which a new long cycle and short cycle will begin. It is believed that not all people/ creatures lived through to each new world, but it is a transition that happens over time. I believe the downfall of the maya also coincided with an end to a short cycle, although only their cities in the southern lowlands were abandonned while cities in the north continued.

Thank you. This was the gist of something I read awhile back too.

[silverback]

I have read the first few posts when this thread was young, and decided to let it mature a bit before posting.
Now, after all the crackpots, doomsday cultists and what else have vented their crazy theories and ideas, it is time to take this to a scientific level.

First, let's define what we are talking about. All this "end of the world" talk is just a wee bit undefined for my inquisitive mind. Literally, it means the cessation of Earth's existence, but egocentric homo sapiens (sapiens, sure...) doesn't for the most part imagine that far or comprehend the notion. The melodramatic "end of the world" equals "the end of humanity" for most people. I think we can agree that the two terms are separated by orders of magnitude. I encourage discussion to arrive at a sharp definition of the term "end of ..." before we engage in further scientific discourse.

Secondly, World's End (in lieu of said definition) is not something likely to be linked to any date that appears to be special through numberology. It is human hubris (I use the term human liberally!) to suppose that the universe gives a rat's a** about any one of our totally artificial calendars, based on the seasons and day-and-night cycles of our puny planet, to determine the "end" of anything.
As if some kind of celestial clockwork is going to stop because some kind of Y2K-esque number bug jams the gears. Sheesh!

But before anyone points out that "wise people" made predictions based on the calendar at hand purely as a reference frame, let me point out that obtaining arcane knowledge has for the most part been linked to ingestion of hallucigenic drugs.
And who would trust a pot-head? Seriously.
Anyone who thinks that any bygone culture was scientifically more advanced than present knowledge has to remember that those people wiped their bums with leaves and believed that evil spirits cause all kinds of mishap. A drug crazed, half naked maniac with a dirty bottom is someone you would trust to make predictions about your future? Hmm?

Finally, let me point out a fine scientific article about methods and feasibility of destroying the earth:
http://qntm.org/destroy

Let's talk about this a little more seriously. :D

[fret]

Better use up the "frequent flier miles". :eek:

[java]

I have read the first few posts when this thread was young, and decided to let it mature a bit before posting.
Now, after all the crackpots, doomsday cultists and what else have vented their crazy theories and ideas, it is time to take this to a scientific level.
............................................
Let's talk about this a little more seriously. :D


Whom are referring to as a crackpot????? :mad: I, sir, will have you know that I am fully baked and any cracks sufferered in an impertinant youth have long since healed!!! :p


That glowing gasbag - our sun, the heating system - is about mid-sequence in its life-cycle. The earth will end at date some 4 - 5 billion years hence as our medium star, now in its red giant phase, consumes the hydrogen in its core and the core begins to collapse and heat up. At about 1,000,000 K Helium fusion begins producing carbon and oxygen. As the sun loses mass in its red giant phase, its outer layers will expand to the orbit of the earth today. However, the orbit of the earth will shift further away but the seas and atmosphere will have long since boiled away. Therefore any humans or other denizens of Terra go out with a rather dubious and inglorious little whimper - providing there is not another Theia or deathsteroid heading our way.

The doom and gloom predictions of anthropocentric prognasticaters are best but a video on youtube or saved for a timid souls' pap fest presented on a new Discovery Channel "Amazing Predictions". Planetary and lunar alignments will do nothing but increase the tides on our slowly cooling ball of rock.

I have long been a fan of Michael Shermer, author of Why People Believe Weird Things: Pseudoscience, Superstition, and Other Confusions of Our Time and monthly contributor to Scientific American. Mysticisim, prognastication, and all forms of augury fall in the same catagory as phrenology and the science of reading your future in a bowl of Alpha-Bits. We live in a Carl Sagan's Demon Haunted World but we ourselves often are and have created our own demons to exploit other's fears and ultimately control their thinking and behavior.

Silverback, I really hope you took none of my initial post seriously for it was not intended as such. I deal in embellishment and sarcasm. Step over here and let me show you what I have to offered for a limited time only.......... :)






:D
j

[silverback]

Whom are referring to as a crackpot????? :mad: I, sir, will have you know that I am fully baked and any cracks sufferered in an impertinant youth have long since healed!!! :p
Of course I was especially referring to you! You are this forum's foremost drug user with a permanent caffeine high. :eek:
I'll have you know that I only drink rainwater and grain alcohol to protect my essence. No crazyness from me!



That glowing gasbag - our sun, the heating system - is about mid-sequence in its life-cycle. The earth will end at date some 4 - 5 billion years hence as our medium star, now in its red giant phase, consumes the hydrogen in its core and the core begins to collapse and heat up. At about 1,000,000 K Helium fusion begins producing carbon and oxygen. As the sun loses mass in its red giant phase, its outer layers will expand to the orbit of the earth today. However, the orbit of the earth will shift further away but the seas and atmosphere will have long since boiled away. Therefore any humans or other denizens of Terra go out with a rather dubious and inglorious little whimper - providing there is not another Theia or deathsteroid heading our way.
Great, so now you quote some textbook. I find it highly dubious how you shift mental gears, is that what coffee induced schizophrenia is like? :D
I maintain that your previous post reveals all I need to know about your state of mind.


The doom and gloom predictions of anthropocentric prognasticaters are best but a video on youtube or saved for a timid souls' pap fest presented on a new Discovery Channel "Amazing Predictions". Planetary and lunar alignments will do nothing but increase the tides on our slowly cooling ball of rock.
Yet in your previous post you claim to have thrown off a planetary conjunction...


I have long been a fan of Michael Shermer, author of Why People Believe Weird Things: Pseudoscience, Superstition, and Other Confusions of Our Time and monthly contributor to Scientific American. Mysticisim, prognastication, and all forms of augury fall in the same catagory as phrenology and the science of reading your future in a bowl of Alpha-Bits. We live in a Carl Sagan's Demon Haunted World but we ourselves often are and have created our own demons to exploit other's fears and ultimately control their thinking and behavior.

Silverback, I really hope you took none of my initial post seriously for it was not intended as such. I deal in embellishment and sarcasm. Step over here and let me show you what I have to offered for a limited time only.......... :)

Stop playing games! :mad:
Either join the scientific discourse and revoke all your previous mad gibberish, or refrain from goading me into an argument!
I will now go back to the lab under my house and renew my efforts to find a working principle for total matter/energy conversion. Then we'll talk end of the world! As soon as I have it, there won't be mystic dates, I'll predict doom as soon as someone makes me cross!

On another note, we don't seem to make any progress on the discussion what "end of..." should be the focus of the thread. :p

Rationally yours,
s

P.S.: Java, your inbox is full...

[WORKER#9]

I hope the world ends sooner, I am really tired of work!:)

But Java crapped me out, now I know the suns gonna keep burning for like billions of years I am screwed, I will never retire:rolleyes::mad::p !!!

[cobrajoe]

I hope the world ends sooner, I am really tired of work!:)

But Java crapped me out, now I know the suns gonna keep burning for like billions of years I am screwed, I will never retire:rolleyes::mad::p !!!
Keep your chin up! Remember, there's always the possiblity of nuclear winter! :p

[AllenETreat]

Of course I was especially referring to you! You are this forum's foremost drug user...


There you are wrong mein Herr! Try 120 oxy-contin
( 10 & 40mg ) and 120 klonopin 1mg :eek: Caffeine is, in this case,
the lesser of two evils. But let's see what Patti Smith had to say -

Dancing barefoot

she is benediction
she is addicted to thee
she is the root connection
she is connecting with he

here I go and I don't know why
I fell so ceaselessly
could it be he's taking over me...

I'm dancing barefoot
heading for a spin
some strange music draws me in
makes me come on like some heroin

she is sublimation
she is the essence of thee
she is concentrating on
he, who is chosen by she

here I go and I don't know why
I spin so ceaselessly,
could it be he's taking over me...

[chorus]

she is re-creation
she, intoxicated by thee
she has the slow sensation that
he is levitating with she ...

here I go and I don't know why,
I spin so ceaselessly,
'til I lose my sense of gravity...

[chorus]

(oh god I fell for you ...)

the plot of our life sweats in the dark like a face
the mystery of childbirth, of childhood itself
grave visitations
what is it that calls to us?
why must we pray screaming?
why must not death be redefined?
we shut our eyes we stretch out our arms
and whirl on a pane of glass
an afixiation a fix on anything the line of life the limb of a tree
the hands of he and the promise that s/he is blessed among women.

(oh god I fell for you ...)


The thing with Patti Smith was that whole trip with Arthur Rimbaud.
Hence the abstract references in the lyrics. Read between the lines
in any song of that era and it'll blow your mind! :eek:

AET :cool: