A Question about Pivots

[flipe8]

Hi guys.
A fellow forumite (Squad314)and myself were talking this morning about our concerns with knives being confiscated by our fine(:rolleyes: ) Customs officials and how our laws are pretty vague and open to interpretation with regards to gravity opening. I ended up losing a Salt due to the fact the officer could open the knife by centrifugal force. That's the price of cross-border orders, but we both agreed that we wouldn't be buying knives that didn't have a pivot that could be tightened anymore. It got me wondering how much work would be involved in having all Spydercos leaving the factories with pivots that could be tightened? Would there be a large cost over the current offerings and would most of you be willing to pay for the pivot? It would also help eliminate the small blade that often comes after long-term use. I was just wondering what your thoughts were.
Thanks,
Pete

[Murdoc]

Hi,

don't you think that adding a pivot screw to i.e. the SALTs would require nothing less than a redesign of the whole knife?

And i assume it would be a major effort and would need a whole new tooling for every knife that is riveted. So, I don't think it's liable to happen....


just my .02...


Dennis

[A.P.F.]

The easiest way is to buy the knives in Canada.

[The Deacon]

The easiest way is to buy the knives in Canada.At least the ones without adjustable pivots. From what I understand, aside frome the balis which are clearly illegal there, Canadian dealers have no problems importing and selling any Spyderco knives including the Salt series and other riveted and pinned models. So that is certainly an option.

Adjustable pivots are not seen as desirable by everyone, at least not on every model. There are some who view a screw as something that has the potential to fall out at the most inconvenient moment. There are also knives on which they'd be an esthetic disaster. I'd cringe to think what the Kiwi or Kopa would look like with one.

[STR]

I don't think they need to do that because the end line user can buy a pivot barrel for just a few dollars in a 1/8" diameter and have it fitted to their knife by any knife maker that they can talk into doing it or with simple hand tools and a dremmel do it themselves. The worst that will happen is they nick the sides of the FRN a bit taking the head off the old pivot pin.

STR

[squad314]

The easiest way is to buy the knives in Canada.

Sounds like a simple solution,why didn't we think of that.At issue however is that finding a Canadian dealer that stocks the majority of the product line,without demanding an unrealistic mark up is tough to find.I'm not saying they're not out there,I'm saying I don't know where they are.I buy Canadian every chance I can but the closest B&M shop to me is an hour away.They carry very few models and the prices,in my opinion are too high.

As far as ordering is concerned,I think everyone can relate to being in the posistion to order a knife you've been eyeing.A dealer across the country may have access to it,but would have to order it in then send it to you.You see however,an online store such as New Graham has 30 in stock and can have it to you in 5 days for half the price.The knife is legal,you've seen it for sale in Canada in the past but Customs arbitrarily deems it prohibited and keeps it.

Deac,I don't think anyone would argue that adjustable pivots are not the solution to every knife.I agree,the bolstered models and others would be a train wreck with them and it's not feasable.

This conversation, by the way, stems from Pete and I discussing his lost Salt,and the fact that I have two knives,a CF Caly and a full size Manix enroute.Now if you'll all excuse me I have to get back to chewing my fingernails.:D

[flipe8]

I didn't even think of bolstered knives when I came to this conclusion. They'd be real purdy:rolleyes: ;) . I guess I was more or less just thinking out loud and was referring more to knives with exposed pins. I figured it would be a fairly costly venture, if not through the materials, then by the re-tooling.