Locking mechanisms

[PERTINAX]

Hi Sal



Any new developments in the pipeline for new locking mechanisms other than liner etc? Something to show-up the Axis lock maybe? I have several customers who have enquired on this lately.



With blade



Pertinax

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[john row]

I've been impressed with the SecurLock on the Spyderco C50 Centofante II and the L.A.W.K.S. in particular on the CRKT Crawford/Kasper . I think I read that this was also used on the Gerber AF Covert.

Haven't handled the compression lock as on the Gunting yet.
I do like the strength of the lock system on the Chinook.

I also heard that Mr. Glesser has been abusing other manufacturers knives!! LOL
In particular a REKAT Pocket Hobbit that came over from Ironstone in Hawaii!!
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John Row


From Golden, Colorado and the knife cuts HAVE caught up to the paper cuts :)

[sal]

Hi Pertinax. The Compression lock is next on the agenda. It's simple and strong. The Gunting, Vesuvius, Lil&quot; Tempeance and ATR will have them in 2001.

sal

[PERTINAX]

Hi

Thanx for the replies, we always seem a bit behind in SA and being new to the forum I am constanly learning. Please explain how the compression lock works?

Many thanx

Pertinax
WWW.PERTINAX.CO.ZA

[BRAM]

well it compresses your fingers tightly around the knife stopping the blade from closing....
just joking..
hmmm should I try to explain this or will Poppa Spyder or the Engineer team describe it better?
hmm
Ok it has a liner type action that from the top side of the knife extends into the radiused groove in the back of the blade which when fully locked compresses against the very large back stop pin...
Its super strong!no springs, no buttons, no cams, nothing but lock!
Did I say that correctly?

Edited by - BRAM on 10/17/00 9:00:22 PM

[Ben S]

As a lefty I have to ask.

Is it ambi?

[BRAM]

No its not ambi..there are seperate left handed versions being done..well OK its sort of not ambi..ROFL..hmmlets try to explain this....
My version is mirror image from the rest of the SPYDERCO Compression lock series so in a way YES..it can be done with either hand BUT its easier with a lefty...gads..Ok this is all IMHO....cause as I said my version in the GUNTINGS is mirror image to the regular compressions..so the standard left version sits in my right version knife...
What makes it left or right ONLY is the clip..its not reversable....the lock is &quot;reversable&quot; and Sal and SPYDERCO version approaches it different than Sal, SPYDERCO, and my version do..LOL
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[Joe Talmadge]

The way I've been thinking of the compression lock:

First, imagine a liner lock. Okay, that probably scared you, so I'll give you a minute to settle down.

Now, imagine a little finger coming out of the liner lock, that fits between the stop pin and the blade tang (the tang has a notch to accomodate the finger).

Now, in theory, you should never get spine-whack or spine-pressure failures. Why? Because when there is spine pressure of any kind, that traps the little finger between the stop pin and blade tang.

Bah. Forget the explanations. Hopefully someone will take pictures like James Mattis used to have up, and post them. Those pics explained everything easily.

Joe

[sal]

Not bad Joe. Bram, I don't know, we have to talk.

Pertinanx. Simple. We shove a piece of metal between the tang and the stop pin. When the bladed tries to close, it compresses this piece of metal tighter. the harder the blade tries to close, the tighter it gets.

The liner is just the carrier of the piece of metal. We have several other ways of introducing the metal into position other than a liner.

We have a drawing that will go up on the site soon.

I will have a &quot;cutaway&quot; version at the NY Show.

sal

[WTFOver]

Hi Sal &amp; Fellow Spydie Fans,
Since this thread is Locking Mechanisms and I did not want to spawn a new one I’ll post here. I wanted to ask about the C12 Civilian lock. I noticed on my older unit that the curve of the handle and the placement of the release made it possible to accidentally release the blade when in a stressful situation and grip pressure is high. (Both stress and a desire to maintain control of the Hawk bill/Hooked blade can dramatically increase your desire to &quot;hold on tight&quot<img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle> I know it sounds stupid but I have a nice scar across my thumb due to this. I just received a couple of new Civilians and have noticed a few minor changes and one big one - the lock release has now been &quot;scalloped&quot;. After practicing with the new Civilian I have found that this &quot;accidental release&quot; problem has been for the most part corrected. When I first sliced open my own thumb I thought I was an idiot and the only one stupid enough to do this. But… with the change to the release I’m not sure. Has there been any thought of moving to a different lock mechanism for this model? For this “defensive tool” rapid deployment is important but it is a rude awakening when you almost take your own finger off.


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[PERTINAX]

Hi Sal and others

Thanx a stack for the explanations, as they say :&quot;A picture is worth 1000 words.&quot;

I await the Gunting eagerly.

With Blade

Pertinax
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