View Full Version : Wow @ the Native III
David Lowry
10-11-2007, 05:06 PM
I just got my PE Native III today. I've never owned one. I've had a few standard S30V Natives but this baby takes the cake. I love this thing TONS. This may just be my "grail" knife.:eek: I never thought I would like a Native III. It just doesn't look like it would be a a "great" knife. For me however it is. It's nice and hand filling. It is not as bulky as I thought it would be. I love the wire clip. I love how the butt end is a little bigger so it helps you pull the knife out of your pocket. It's very sturdy, and solid. It is THE most comfortable knife I have ever held in my hand. It's unreal. I cannot believe that I have never tried one. I can get a full 4 finger grip on the handle without even using the choil. I prefer the choil as it's more comfy that way. :) The icing on the cake is the jimping. It's the big "old" style. I love it.
This is a knife that I will have to get backups of. This is nuts. It's just hard to believe that I have gone through about 70+ knives since 2005 and that I never held a Native III. I like this knife more than any other knife. I'm not sure why, I just do. Well, yeah.......I know why, I just listed the reasons above. :D
I'm a little excited. Now I only wish that Spyderco would make a few other variations of the NIII. Man, what a great knife.
I have a lanyard coming for this thing from someone I now consider to be a friend in Australia. I'll put it on this knife and this will be my main EDC for a good long while. So, if anyone doesn't want a Native III that they have, send it my way. ;)
I will for sure add a thread to the picture forum with lots of pics as soon as I can get some good daylight. :)
thombrogan
10-11-2007, 05:36 PM
There's a blue collector's version out there, too.
SimpleIsGood229
10-11-2007, 05:42 PM
Why/how exactly do you like the Native III over the S30V Native? Does the S30V Native just not work for your hand? It doesn't for mine.
whitefeather
10-11-2007, 05:43 PM
David,
Are you trying to say you like the Native III?;) ;) ;)
Lostification
10-11-2007, 05:45 PM
The Native III has different ergonomics I believe.
fellyjr
10-11-2007, 05:57 PM
David, You might want to try finding one of these as well:
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l84/fellyjr/IMG_5699.jpg
;) ;)
The Deacon
10-11-2007, 06:12 PM
Why/how exactly do you like the Native III over the S30V Native? Does the S30V Native just not work for your hand? It doesn't for mine.The primary difference would be the handle. Instead of being a flat slab, it's contoured like the grip of a target pistol, with palm swells, fiinger pads, and heel rests. So it's considerably more ergonomic. The tradeoff is thickness. For some, that's an excellent trade, for others not. Probably why Spyderco continues to make both. I'm with you, preferring the C41 at least 90% of the time, but can well understand why some prefer the C78.
SimpleIsGood229
10-11-2007, 06:28 PM
The primary difference would be the handle. Instead of being a flat slab, it's contoured like the grip of a target pistol, with palm swells, fiinger pads, and heel rests. So it's considerably more ergonomic. The tradeoff is thickness. For some, that's an excellent trade, for others not. Probably why Spyderco continues to make both. I'm with you, preferring the C41 at least 90% of the time, but can well understand why some prefer the C78.
I meant that I don't care for the C41 Native (S30V). I've never held a C78, though.
jaislandboy
10-11-2007, 06:44 PM
SimpleIsGood229: the Native3 "feels" like a bigger knife that also seems to fit bigger hands well with its thicker handle profile.....also the jimping over the spyderhole are "raised ribs" instead of lasered out grooves found on the C41...
Congrats on the C78 David.... sometimes perfection doesn't have to be expensive.... ;) Calls for an encore celebration.... :p
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd98/jaislandboy/native3009.jpg
David Lowry
10-11-2007, 07:05 PM
felly,
Yeah I'm gonna have to try to find a blue one. I don't care really if it has the forum 2003 on the blade or not. I know there are some out there without it.
I will also have to get a serrated one. :)
Other than the 3D handle, the different top swedge, and the wire clip, I really like the more rounded index finger choil. What a great knife. :)
fellyjr
10-11-2007, 07:07 PM
felly,
Yeah I'm gonna have to try to find a blue one. I don't care really if it has the forum 2003 on the blade or not. I know there are some out there without it.
I will also have to get a serrated one. :)
Other than the 3D handle, the different top swedge, and the wire clip, I really like the more rounded index finger choil. What a great knife. :)
David, I will keep my radar on for you and if I find one I will notify you immediately if I can! ;) :)
David Lowry
10-11-2007, 07:09 PM
David, I will keep my radar on for you and if I find one I will notify you immediately if I can! ;) :)
Thanks buddy. I would really appreciate that. I am really hooked on this Native III. :)
fellyjr
10-11-2007, 07:12 PM
Thanks buddy. I would really appreciate that. I am really hooked on this Native III. :)
I've been known to find some obscure Spydie-Items in the past so a hook up is definitely in order. :D
David Lowry
10-11-2007, 07:18 PM
You find one.....I'll buy it. Unless the price is crazy like $1000 or something. :D
ozspyder
10-11-2007, 09:34 PM
G'day David,
I told you it was a great knife. IMHO EVERY :spyder: nut needs to have at least one of the Natives in either I, II or III incarnation. I prefer the Native III PE, and it is one of my staples in my EDC rotation.
I have a few more 'harder to procure' Natives coming my way, but alas the blue FRN one in nude form is one of my 'LOST BOYS'. So Felly....if you hear me then keep the other eye out for me ;) ....same goes for all you other :spyder: mates out there.
The Native is what got me hooked onto blades and Spyderco in the first place, and I doubt it if I will part with any of them without much pain.
Oh, and BTW David, check your PM's :D . And of course we shall all be looking forward to your additions to the "Native Appreciation" thread (OMG< I don't think I have posted my photos there yet :eek: sacriledge ! )
Cheers
Dan
deeker
10-11-2007, 10:09 PM
David, I thought the Paramilitary was the one that stole your heart?? :confused:
David Lowry
10-11-2007, 10:47 PM
David, I thought the Paramilitary was the one that stole your heart?? :confused:
Not any more sir. :)
Now that I have tried a Native III it seems my search may be over.
I'm being entirely serious too. I never would have thought this would be the case but it is.
I feel like I have found "The knife".
On a side note:
I noticed that there is a little "Sal" stamp on each side of the butt end of the knife in the FRN above the barrel bolt. :) Pretty cool.
Michael Cook
10-11-2007, 10:53 PM
:spyder: Huh. So the handle's longer than the wally world native. I can't comfortably hold the s30v native without using the choil, which I find irksome. :spyder:
Agent Starling
10-11-2007, 11:16 PM
I thought the Wally world Native was the Native III? Or is it a different version of the III?
Agent Starling
Axlis
10-12-2007, 12:09 AM
Glad to hear you like the Native III David, and I can't wait for the pics!
I've wanted to try a Native III for a while, but never could get up the courage, based on impressions of the S30v one.
I've always sorta liked the S30v Native, but the feel just wasn't right. I also think the III swedge looks better. When you do the pics could you do a comparison between the two?
Michael Cook
10-12-2007, 12:17 AM
I thought the Wally world Native was the Native III? Or is it a different version of the III?
Agent Starling
:spyder: The wal-mart native's s30v, the native III is vg10 and has the more contured bi-directional handle:spyder:
fellyjr
10-12-2007, 02:25 AM
but alas the blue FRN one in nude form is one of my 'LOST BOYS'. So Felly....if you hear me then keep the other eye out for me ;)
Cheers
Dan
G'day Dan, my blue Native III sonar is currently running at full speed ahead. When I get a lock on my target objective I will send two messages in bottles to you and David via Pony Express. :D :D
MAT888
10-12-2007, 02:56 AM
Glad you like your new Native 3 David.
Next month mine will be send to Jurgen Schanz for a health spa flat grind treatment after 4 years of hard use. It is one of my faves too :D
MANIXWORLD
10-12-2007, 02:59 AM
Its funny how the best thing for us, can be right in front of our eyes and we dont even know.
Ive got the USA Native cpm s30v blade.Beautiful knife it is.
I want to handle a Native 3 still and make a positive decision on purchasing.
I'm a huge fan of thin handled Spydies,but exceptions can be made.
Will you invest in a spyderedge Native3 as well,i presume?
Oh yes,i love VG10 steel.That will probably knock the final nail in the coffin on my decision on a Native3,but a spyderedge first.
MANIXWORLD.
deeker
10-12-2007, 07:34 AM
Now that I have tried a Native III it seems my search may be over.
I'm being entirely serious too. I never would have thought this would be the case but it is.
I feel like I have found "The knife".
Very high praise, indeed. I hope the long term use provides as much satisfaction for you as well. I know I like the 3D grip of the D'Allara. Maybe I should try the Native, too?
If you need a loving home for the Paramilitary, some of us would likely volunteer to help you out...:rolleyes:
David Lowry
10-12-2007, 07:44 AM
deeker, I'll keep you in mind if I ever need another home for any of my Para's. :)
This morning I just ordered a serrated Native III. :D Well, I guess it's partially serrated but it's more than half so I call it serrated. Now I just want to get a blue one (or two) . :D
catamount
10-12-2007, 08:30 AM
David,
you've inspired me to carry mine today.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/TomBerry/Native4.jpg
It's just too cool not to be used. I'm glad I was fortunate enough to find 2 a while back. One to use, and one stashed away mint.
boxer93
10-12-2007, 10:15 AM
David,
When I went looking for a knife that scout age boys would use I came upon the C78PBL. My Son had been using(and still does) a BFC C41GPSBL. For boy scouts that achieve the eagle rank I Have something for them.
<img src="http://home.comcast.net/~boxer93/eagle_scout_open_full_br3.jpg" width="640" height="480" border="0" alt="">
<img src="http://home.comcast.net/~boxer93/eagle_scout_open_blade_br1.jpg" width="640" height="480" border="0" alt="">
<img src="http://home.comcast.net/~boxer93/eagle_scout_closed_br4.jpg" width="640" height="480" border="0" alt="">
I've been using a non engraved one for whitiling a walking stick.
Enjoy,
Chris
Lostification
10-12-2007, 01:09 PM
Not any more sir. :)
Now that I have tried a Native III it seems my search may be over.
I'm being entirely serious too. I never would have thought this would be the case but it is.
I feel like I have found "The knife".
On a side note:
I noticed that there is a little "Sal" stamp on each side of the butt end of the knife in the FRN above the barrel bolt. :) Pretty cool.
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: x 9999999
Great, now I have to buy another knife.... :mad:
MAT888
10-12-2007, 04:01 PM
Very high praise, indeed. I hope the long term use provides as much satisfaction for you as well. I know I like the 3D grip of the D'Allara. Maybe I should try the Native, too?
If you need a loving home for the Paramilitary, some of us would likely volunteer to help you out...:rolleyes:
Deeker get your self a native 3 to find out.....LOL:D
Capt. Carl
10-13-2007, 10:13 AM
I've got to get one of these. I love the native S30v.
Kaizen
10-13-2007, 10:17 AM
I'm going to a shop today to check one out.
Capt. Carl
10-13-2007, 10:49 AM
I'm going to a shop today to check one out.
let us know Ignoramus.
Spydiman
10-14-2007, 10:53 AM
I love my Native III, had these pics kicken' around on my computer, so....
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8103/dsc03016fy6.jpg
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8215/dsc03022dt8.jpg
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/6676/dsc03211kp5.jpg
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/6392/dsc03224zo3.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1623/dsc03213oz2.jpg
EDIT: I forgot, I put a video on youtube also. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQFis7uT4PM
Capt. Carl
10-14-2007, 12:45 PM
Awesome! Thanks Spydiman!
Spydiman
10-14-2007, 01:15 PM
Awesome! Thanks Spydiman!
My favorite thing about the Native III, is that it packs in more blade in less amount of space. If you look at the Native vs the Delica, the Delica has a lot of "wasted space", while the Native has close to none.
Capt. Carl
10-14-2007, 01:52 PM
My favorite thing about the Native III, is that it packs in more blade in less amount of space. If you look at the Native vs the Delica, the Delica has a lot of "wasted space", while the Native has close to none.
Now I am compelled to get one. I love knives that maximize the most blade in a handle. Is the knife pocketable? The D'allara looks like hell to carry because of the width. I want to make sure the Native 3 isn't like that. Looks like its about the same in the pocket as a Delica? I thought the native was nice and pocketable.
ozspyder
10-14-2007, 04:20 PM
Great shots Spydiman ! love the camera work :)
I have the Native I, II and III. I choose to use the Native III as one of my EDC rotations. It seems to find itself in there a fair bit due to the wire clip and FRN scales, packed with a very capable leaf shaped blade.
Capt Carl, it is about the same size in the pocket as the Delica...actually similar in size when open as well. I see and feel the Delica as a working knife for general utility, and the Native as a general utility knife as well, but with the leaf shaped blade and broader handles the Native has within it a more sinisterly capable talent ;)
Pink Delica 4 example shown below with a Native III.
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r152/datan070973/cutlery/Spyderco/Delica/Pink%20Delica/DSC_7207.jpg
Cheers
Dan
Capt. Carl
10-14-2007, 04:46 PM
Thanks Datan. I was worried a bit because I saw a comparison pic with a manix mini and they almost looked to be the same size. This sorts things out- it must have just been a camera trick.
MAT888
10-15-2007, 11:18 AM
Carl you can't go wrong on a Native 3 . I barely notice the slightly thicker handle when pocketed compared to my D4W. I prefer this one for a little more rougher tasks as the extra blade after the edge will kick in. The handle is extremely comfy in long term use for me i have small to medium handsize.
I could only come up with one negative and that is for people with closetlid sized jumbohands as the recoils might be a little small for them.
Furthermore if you want a lightweight version of a mini manix/ para i think this is a good choice.
David Lowry
10-15-2007, 12:33 PM
That's a nice comparison shot between the NIII and the D4 Dan!
After being a huge fan of the Delica for so long I now realize why I like the Native III better for everything. Larger blade in smaller handle. I can get a 4 finger grip and not have too much handle left like the D4 has. The blade has a nice point unlike the D4. The grind is higher, and since it seems to be a hollow saber grind which makes it sharper (at least to me). I also like the thumb ridges instead of the very find jimping. The 3D handle is better. I like the wire clip better too. There is not one thing that I dislike on the Native III. I will for sure be getting multiples of this knife in whatever varieties I can. :)
Lostification
10-15-2007, 01:22 PM
I love my Native III, had these pics kicken' around on my computer, so.... EDIT: I forgot, I put a video on youtube also. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQFis7uT4PM
Off-Topic -
Forget the Native!!! CROSSBILL??!?!??!!!?!! Wow, that's NICE! Never thought I'd be lookin at a Byrd. :eek:
ballistic
10-15-2007, 02:00 PM
rats, i want one now too :rolleyes:
the blue one sure looks purdy
OuchThatsSharp
10-15-2007, 08:02 PM
David Lowry, Congrats on your Native III! That's the first Spyderco knife I ever purchased and immediately fell in love with it. You're bit now, no known cure, very addictive, only remedy is to get more. Just bought 3 more variations (one a gift to one of my Grandsons, his first "real" knife).
Check out Deacon's website and UK Ken's.
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