Endurahawk

[Agent Starling]

The one hawkbill I haven't heard any discussion about in many a moon is the Endurahawk. And it's one Spyder I haven't seen on ebay or other sites that carry disco'd Spyders...my perception is it's one hawkbilled Spyder that has somehow fallen through the cracks...:eek:

Does anybody like it? Want one? Is it a Spyderco orphan, long-forgotten?

What are your thoughts on this knife?

Agent Starling :D

[Peter1960]

IMO "Endurahawk" was a production error of the Spyderhawk and not an independent model.

Furtunately I own one :)

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8754/c77sbkspyderhawk102medinr3.jpg

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2481/c77sbkspyderhawk105mediox0.jpg

[Agent Starling]

IMO "Endurahawk" was a production error of the Spyderhawk and not an independent model.
Peter,

How do you mean? Does it have the Spyderhawk blade?

Agent Starling

[malice4you]

there's one for sale online....

http://216.71.158.68/webcat/spyderhawk.shtml

$8,686.86

(I wouldn't mind one myself, but that's a tad steep for my tastes....)

[Agent Starling]

That's a Spyderhawk...you can find those much cheaper than that!

Agent Starling

[catamount]

Peter,

How do you mean? Does it have the Spyderhawk blade?

Agent Starling

The Spyderhawk scales were made from the Endura mold. Some were accidentally made with the Endura name badge insert. Thus "Endurahawk". Otherwise, they are identical to the Spyderhawk, and are a variation thereof.

[JD Spydo]

That's a Spyderhawk...you can find those much cheaper than that!

Agent Starling

The Spyderhawk if you look at it closely you immediately notice that it and the Matriarch both have the same handle as the older Endura model.

What happened was that a few of the handles that were supposed to be Endura handles ended up being Spyderhawk handles instead.

The only difference between an Endurahawk and a Spyderhawk is that the Endurahawk has a handle which say's ENDURA instead of saying SPYDERHAWK like it was supposed to.

There was a big frenzy over the Endurahawks back around 04. A few collectors started noticing that their Spyderhawks had Endura handles and they really thought they had something. However I think there were a lot more Spyderhawks with Endura handles than most people want to admit. Personally I've had at least 4 of them in and out of my recollection. I still have one left over. But I can assure you that they are not the collector's prize that a lot of people claim they are. I'm willing to bet that there are probably at least 2 to 3 hundred of them out there. Because I've talked to several people in the last 2 years that have them.

All they are is a Spyderhawk with Endura stamped on the FRN handle. It's that simple. They are not the holy grail, rare bird that a lot of people and knife dealers claim that they are. Back in 05 my best friend and at that time fellow Spyderco collector Chuck ( who is now deceased) had me get him 3 Spyderhawks on Ebay. Well 2 out of the 3 Spyderhawks I got for him ended up being the ones with "Endura" stamped on the handle. And I got those completely at random and I think that 2 of those were Ebay "buy it now" options. There are actually quite a few of them out there. I will admit that at one time I thought they were indeed a special collector piece along the lines of a coin in which the die struck it twice. I thought at that time that there were very few of them out there. But that's not the way it is, they are simply a mislabeled SPYDERHAWK.

[Manix Guy 2]

Interesting Joe , I never paid attention to the handle of my Spyderhawk until this thread . just pulled mine out of cabinet , it is stamped Endura . No biggie , it is the knife not the stamp that appeals to me . MG2

[Agent Starling]

The Spyderhawk if you look at it closely you immediately notice that it and the Matriarch both have the same handle as the older Endura model.
So if I'm understanding this correctly, same physical handle, just "Endura" or "Spyderhawk" stamped on it?...if that's the case...no need to get the fabled Endurahawk!

Starling

[SimpleIsGood229]

I would love a Spyderhawk with E4 handles. Wouldn't you?
Maybe make the whole thing out of H1 and Ti for good measure...

[Mr Blonde]

I just hope that my Endurahawk becomes just as collectible as some stamps with printing errors!:D

http://www.spydercollector.nl/upload/hawks.jpg

Wouter

[JD Spydo]

So if I'm understanding this correctly, same physical handle, just "Endura" or "Spyderhawk" stamped on it?...if that's the case...no need to get the fabled Endurahawk!

Starling

Now I'm not saying that it would be useless to have one in your collection because I think all Spyderhawk will gain value down the road but essentially all you would have would be a mislabeled Spyderhawk for all intent and purposes. I think over the long haul there will be some collector appeal for the "mislabeled Spyderhawk".

But all in all you'll have a knife that will more than likely won't have much more value than the Spyderhawk. If the Endurahawk does attain any premium collector value I think it would only be modestly higher than what the "Real McCoy" Spyderhawk will ultimately fetch.

[Michael Cook]

So if I'm understanding this correctly, same physical handle, just "Endura" or "Spyderhawk" stamped on it?...if that's the case...no need to get the fabled Endurahawk!

Starling

:spyder: Not if you already have a "spyderhawk" both are c77 :spyder:

[Agent Starling]

:spyder: Not if you already have a "spyderhawk" both are c77 :spyder:
what is c77?

[Michael Cook]

what is c77?

:spyder: The nomenclature # for the spyderhawk/endurahawk. :spyder:

[bladese97]

:spyder: :spyder: :cool: :spyder: :spyder: Hey....I have never seen, or heard of this one:( ...But, I love it!!!! I will keep my eye out for one, and maybe get lucky! Sweet pix!

[JD Spydo]

:spyder: :spyder: :cool: :spyder: :spyder: Hey....I have never seen, or heard of this one:( ...But, I love it!!!! I will keep my eye out for one, and maybe get lucky! Sweet pix!

If you make it a point to buy 4 Spyderco Spyderhawks in the next few weeks I can almost guarantee you that at least one of them will say ENDURA on the handle. They truly are more prevalent that most collectors realize. But I like the Spyderhawk so much that I don't care which handle it has.

The C-77 Spyderhawk will be the forerunner of some really neat, full sized Hawkbills coming down the pipeline I do believe.

[Manix Guy 2]

May I suggest that at the time of production that the blades were ready before the handles so the Endura handle was used to push the Spyderhawk to the ELUs ? Just a thought . MG2

[JD Spydo]

May I suggest that at the time of production that the blades were ready before the handles so the Endura handle was used to push the Spyderhawk to the ELUs ? Just a thought . MG2

I wouldn't dismiss that possibility at all. Also the Spyderhawk is so obviously different than the Endura that the "mislabeling" might not have been considered a major issue. I would also venture to say that from what I heard the Spyderhawk was primarily targeted for the Commercial Fishing sector and with all the hard use that knife would have likely gotten the "mislabeling issue" was merely a moote point because most workmen would have never noticed.

Truly I'm surprised that the Commercial Fishing sector and other demanding occupations didn't embrace the Spyderhawk any better than they did. Maybe because of it's short tenure it's possible that market awareness did not reach it's target market as intended.

Also as misunderstood as that knife was very few considered the knife anything but a martial arts standout>> when in reality it is truly a great work knife for various rough jobs.

[Manix Guy 2]

Joe last comments hit a vein , maybe the pointed tip was a turnoff for intended use for fishermen , needing only a blunted tip ? In case of a drop no pain and a stronger blade for HD use ? Just a thought . MG2

[JD Spydo]

Joe last comments hit a vein , maybe the pointed tip was a turnoff for intended use for fishermen , needing only a blunted tip ? In case of a drop no pain and a stronger blade for HD use ? Just a thought . MG2

Yeah that's a possibility for sure>> However the Harpy which is a Hawkbill that quite a few in the fishing and other industries use quite a bit>> it has a point.. Maybe not as pronounced as the Spyderhawk. And the TASMAN has a point too.

I don't think it's so much the point as it is that most people haven't gotten the opportunity to really test it out as a work knife. It was only by accident and taking the wrong knife to work with me about 3 years ago that I discovered just how good it performs on tough cutting jobs. It's strange how those things occur like that. But sometimes it's strange circumstances that cause people to do things that they normally wouldn't do.

Just the fact that you almost couldn't give one away when they were in production and now it's a major fight to win one on Ebay. I remember in the Spring of 05 getting 3 of them for my deceased best friend and I didn't pay over $62 for any of them. Boy would I love to get one for that price now. No MG it's just a matter of getting people to test drive one.