A weird notion...

[Carlos]

I know that I have pestered Sal overmuch of late, so after this I'll give it a long rest. Anyway, a few factors were mulling in my head, naturally resulting in a new SKU idea.



The factors:



1. Dozier folder collaboration impossible.



2. Spyderco wants to limit new collaborations and focus on inhouse designs.



This naturally gave me the idea that Spyderco could create an inhouse-designed folding hunter.



It does have the C48 Wegner, but that is a "semi-skinner" blade, and of course not an inhouse (Sal) design. C48 is still my favourite folding knife, but man does not live on one knife alone :D . Pro Grips are cute but small, and where's the G10?



Imagine instead a classic drop-point skinner blade with a wide fully flat-ground blade -no swedge or other silliness. A Military-size Spyder-hole.



To put it in a slightly different size class than the C48, give it a 10cm CPM-440V blade (~3.9 inch), simple and straight 12.5cm (~5 inch) G10 handles with nested liner-lock (a la Military) or compression lock.



Reversible tip-up/down clip. No design compromises for looks -- all function.



The name? Plain and straight forward: Spyderco Forester.



Well now that it's out of my head, I can go to bed. Goodnight to all, and to all a good night.



Edited by - Carlos on 10/17/00 2:42:32 AM

[Clay Kesting]

Nice idea Carlos. I particularly like the suggestion that it should have a flat ground blade. These days I find the only knives I am carrying are my Calypso Jrs, Centofante Jr and Military. Can't see myself buying another hollow ground blade, just as well the Chinese Folder has a flat grind <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>.

Clay

The antipodean troublemaker

[Carlos]

Thanks Clay,

I was thinking about it, and I realized that this concept would be ideal utility folder for everyday use. I also realized that it might make a good commission for a custom bladesmith. It is unreasonable to expect Spyderco or any other manufacturer to taylor make an SKU for each of our individual preferences. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

It would be expensive, and I'd have to settle for a thumb-stud instead of a Spydie-hole <img src="sad.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle> , but it would be a better course of action than pestering our pal Sal. <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

[Carlos]

You know, designing a knife is harder than is appears. I spent some time trying to draw up my concept, and found that the width required for the drop-pont skinner blade 4&quot; long, resulted in a massive knife overall.

It seems that to get a properly proportioned wide drop-point skinner blade into a useable folder, one has to limit oneself to a 3.5 or 3.3&quot; blade length and a wide 4.5&quot; handle.

Henceforth I think I'll leave knife design to the experts. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle> But if you can imagine the drop-point Moran's blade on a G10-handled folding knife, then you get the picture.

Edited by - Carlos on 10/18/00 9:24:09 PM

[sal]

Hi Carlos. It's not pestering, that's why I'm here. Interesting thought. Drawing the concept does get tough though. There are a number of dimensions that we've learned work with the Spyderhole and many do not. Ergos are difficult to fit in.

We've thought about it, just have quite a few already on the line. there are also a few niche markets that we'd like to dabble in with a purpose build piece..

sal

[Carlos]

Thanks Sal, I can really begin to appreciate how difficult it be to take a knife from concept to production. No wonder it is often a matter of years.

Keep up the good work! <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>