Manix vs. ATR

[Vincent]

Now that I see the Manix is going to be discontinued, I kind of want one, though the ATR has been catching my eye for a while. What is stronger and more practical.

I personally think the compression lock is much stronger than the lock back.

[Michael Cook]

:spyder: Stronger schmonger, unless yer gonna do crazy things with your knife both are heavy duty knives. Manix has more parts that can fail over many years of use. :spyder:

[Spydiman]

I personally think the compression lock is much stronger than the lock back.

Is that just a idea of yours, or have you done any tests?

:spyder:

[ergoproxy]

Is that just a idea of yours, or have you done any tests?

:spyder:

Have you seen an ATR up close? I have the SS model and that thing is built so simple yet so effective. The pivot or stop pin will probably go out first before the frame/compression lock gives out. Not sure about the Para or Yoji since I don't own either one.

[Brad S.]

The Compression lock is much... Let me say again... MUCH stronger than the Lock back.

I saw the a chart with all the locks rated by their strength and IIRC the Ball Lock and the Compression Lock were spots 1 and 2, I dont remember which was first. Followed by the Lock back in 3rd. Then Liner lock was the weakest.
This Is all from a conversation that I had will Sal, as well I think this will all be discussed in the new Catalog, but thats just a guess.

[Firefighter880]

The Compression lock is much... Let me say again... MUCH stronger than the Lock back.



Yes, the comp lock is extremely strong and most are MBC rated I think, but I also think I remember reading that the Lock Back on the Manix and Chinook III were supposed to be the strongest locks of the Spyders....

Not sure about this, but I swear I thought I read it here on the forum. Can anyone back this up? :confused:

:spyder:

[sharkattack]

Yes, the comp lock is extremely strong and most are MBC rated I think,

The compression lock on the Para isn't rated MBC though is it? What is the compression lock on the Para rated at?

[Michael Cook]

The compression lock on the Para isn't rated MBC though is it? What is the compression lock on the Para rated at?

:spyder: If not MBC then right under it. :spyder:

[Chucula]

The compression lock being a stronger design does not imply it is stronger under any condition. The locks on the manix/chinook are probably much thicker than the compression locks on the other spyderco's, and may be just as strong even if they are an inferior design.

[Michael Cook]

:spyder: Either way your fingers will be the weakest part of the system. :spyder:

[bladese97]

:spyder: :spyder: :cool: :spyder: :spyder: I would say it depends on what you are looking for, as far as weight, lock, lock strength, ergo's, profile, etc. If you are looking to edc the one you choose, my opinion would be the Atr as a choice, being alot of folder, just as the Manix is, but in a thinner, lighter package, that at the same time would be more practical in, and around the public. I edc my Ti-Atr/pe almost every day, and I get good responces, and no one freaks out much. Just my opinion bro...As allways, a tough choice!

[ergoproxy]

I agree, the SS/Ti ATR has that Leatherman multi-tool utilitarian look because maybe of the all steel construction. The black ATR with SE, however, is a different story.

[squad314]

Vincent,I've had a Manix and am carrying an ATR right now.As far as lock strength is concerned,the difference IMHO is negligible.The compression lock on the ATR is extremely strong,but the backlock on the Manix is so thick and deep that I would be hard pressed to make either fail.

As far as practicality,the Manix is a very big knife....thick,wide and long.The ATR on the other hand is very thin and much narrower.This makes it much less intrusive in the pocket while yielding little or no functionality.For my purpose it fits the bill just right.I guess it would depend on what your wants and needs are......Both tough,strong Spyderco classics.:)

[Detdaddy]

:spyder: Either way your fingers will be the weakest part of the system. :spyder:

Well said Mr. Cook:) Personally, I wouldn't worry about which of the two has a higher rated lock. I doubt I could get either of them to fail.

As already stated, the biggest difference I would consider is in the material of the handle, and the thickness in the handle. I was going to order an ATR off STP a while back. I found one in a local shop and held it, and changed my mind about ordering one. I did not like the feel of it in my hand. I felt it was too thin (clip side to opposite side) and did not like the way my hand gripped it. That's just me.

[kahrk9]

For me, the question would be which blade geometry would I prefer; hands down I would go with the manix, or the mini manix which I already own. It has the finest blade geometry of any S30 V blade I own.


Richard

[The CoPilot]

Manix owners are going to tell you to get the Manix and ATR owners (like myself) are going to tell you that the ATR is the best. The only way that you can decide is to handle them both for yourself and see which one suits you best. Opinons are like *&#holes; everybody has one. You can listen to all the opinions and look at all the photos you want, but there's no substitute for actually holding the knife in you hands.