Superhawk: A New Hawkbill with High Expectations.

[JD Spydo]

I am counting the days till the launch of the Superhawk. This New Spyderco Hawkbill will set new precedents and will undoubtedly dispel misconceptions about Hawkbill blades in general.

This new model I believe is going to prove that Hawkbill blades are an ideal second EDC knife that will work well in tandem with other great blade designs.

Hawkbills seem to be one of the most misunderstood blade designs on the market due to undue predjudices. Spyderco has already made huge headway with the legendary Harpy, Merlin & Tasman which all have proven themselves to be valuable working blades. The Superhawk I believe will be an icebreaker of sorts for more new Hawkbill blade designs coming down the pipeline.

The new Superhawk will indeed meet and excede it's expectations. So how many of you are going to get a new Superhawk? Do you all expect the Superhawk to end up being their flagship Hawkbill?

[mrappraisit]

With lots of forumites singing the praises of this blade shape, I am interested in seeing this knife, photos anyone?:)
I have used similar shape blades in woodcarving, is accuracy and "fineness" of the cut they make the main positive as an EDC?
Shawn

[Billy]

I too am very interested in this new hawkie. Honestly, this is the only new knife I think I really "need" to have! I'm sure it will make a nice addition to my small collection of :spyder: hawkbills. I almost always have one of my 3 hawkies on me along with another knife. I find them very complimentary to more conventional blade shapes and come in extra handy when I need to slip a blade under something to initiate the cut. Plus, I just like the way hawkbills look. :cool:

BRING ON THE SUPERHAWK!!

Billy

[catamount]

With lots of forumites singing the praises of this blade shape, I am interested in seeing this knife, photos anyone?:)

Here are a couple of pics of the prototype courtesy of MrBlonde

http://www.spydercollector.nl/upload/amsterdammeet2007_superhawk.jpg

http://www.spydercollector.nl/upload/amsterdammeet2007_superhawk_closedclip.jpg

http://www.spydercollector.nl/index1.php?pagina=news&id=144&ex=none#article

[mrappraisit]

Thanks Tom.
That does look pretty sweet. Are the handles the same CF as the Stretch?
Shawn

[bladese97]

:spyder: :spyder: :cool: :spyder: :spyder: Oh hell...I sure as hell will buy one of these...Maybe two if my wallet will let me.

[Jazz]

I just about can't stand how gorgeous that knife is! I don't even own a hawkbill, but that may be the one. Does anyone know how big it is? What other Spydie does it compare to in size? Please tell me, if any of y'all know.

- best wishes, Jazz.

[Blackhair]

The only thing that would stop me from carrying that knife would be the fullness of my pockets from all of Spyderco's other awesome knives. :D

Although I do think that it would make a fine "nice clothes" carry in conjunction with my CF/ZDP Caly3, with the upcoming CF Kiwi nestled at the bottom of one of my pockets. I'll be a whirling dervish of Carbon Fiber Clad Cutting Power! :D


By the way, does anyone know the dimensions on this beauty?

[Agent Starling]

I just about can't stand how gorgeous that knife is!
I know, I know...tell me about it...I try not to think about it as i impatiently wait on needles and pins for release day...got mine on pre-order with the Spyderco Pharmacy aka NGK!!!!! :cool:


I don't even own a hawkbill, but that may be the one. Does anyone know how big it is?/QUOTE]
Bigger than life! ;)

[QUOTE=Jazz;389199]What other Spydie does it compare to in size? Please tell me, if any of y'all know.
I don't have any information as to its size...but if you want a taste of hawkbill, buy a nice Harpy for starters...and you'll see what the Hawkbill Craze is really all about...seriously, it's one of those things in life you just have to try for your own self...:D

Agent Starling

[Agent Starling]

I have used similar shape blades in woodcarving, is accuracy and "fineness" of the cut they make the main positive as an EDC?
This one will cut like a lightsaber, I expect...if past hawkbill performance is any indication...:D :spyder:

Agent Starling

[Blackhair]

if you want a taste of hawkbill, buy a nice Harpy for starters...and you'll see what the Hawkbill Craze is really all about...seriously, it's one of those things in life you just have to try for your own self...

You couldn't be more right, Starling! :D

I fell in love with hawkbills when I got my Tasman. Someone said it before, but I'll say it again. There's a reason that talons and claws are shaped like that (and, also... hawk's bills). :p


Say... one thing I was wondering. Does anyone know if the CF on this is glossy or peel-ply? I would assume peel-ply, but one can always hope. :rolleyes:

[Agent Starling]

I am counting the days till the launch of the Superhawk. This New Spyderco Hawkbill will set new precedents and will undoubtedly dispel misconceptions about Hawkbill blades in general...The new Superhawk will indeed meet and excede it's expectations.
You said it right, knifebro, the most amazing of hawkbills yet is coming down the pike to a dealer near you...i can just see it now...


:spyder: introducing :spyder:

SUPERHAWK...the Hawkbill with an Attitude!

Agent Starling

[Brad S.]

I'm pretty excited to get this one. It will be my first Hawkbill blade.

[carpdiem]

Is that a compression lock on the superhawk?

[Blackhair]

It is indeed a Compression Lock. :D

It's just a small part of what makes the Superhawk so exciting.


And in relation to my earlier question, I found a quote by Sal, saying that the Superhawk is going to have Peel-Ply CF. Silly me. :rolleyes:

[catamount]

I hope it's the same peel-ply as on the Stretch 2, not the rougher version that was on the CF Military. It looks that way in the prototype pic.

I know some like the glossy, but as far as I'm concerned, they should use the S2 peel-ply for all future CF scales. It's the only kind I actually prefer over G10.

[Mr Blonde]

The prototype I handled on the Amsterdam Meet this year, where I took these pics, had the same type of handle as the Stretch II; a smoother peel-ply-ish CF handle. I just wish it would come with some teeth on the edge.

http://www.spydercollector.nl/upload/amsterdammeet2007_superhawk_closed.jpg

Wouter

[JD Spydo]

If anyone at the Great Spyder Factory is checking out this thread I have just one suggestion I would like you all to consider concerning the Superhawk.

First of all I would love some Jimping on the blade spine ( at least an inch or so). I would also love to see if they could be offered with a combo edged and/or serrated blade. We have yet to see a Spyderco Hawkbill with a CE blade. However a fully serrated one would fit my wishes >> Do you agree with me AREND :) ????? I don't ever want to see Spyderco abandon what helped to bring them this far>> that being the Spyderedge ;)

What might the rest of you think about that suggestion? Even if you don't like serrations you got to admit that Spyderco's are the best ones on the market.

Holy SpyderEDGE!!!! Batman :D

[Blackhair]

Jimping is absolutely essential, IMHO.

I'm not so crazy about CE, but I would love an SE version of this blade. Certain blade geometries just call for certain blade types (for instance, I think that the Caly3 is more suited to PE, but isn't hurt by SE), and the Superhawk calls for an SE version! (And PE)





Give us both, please! *makes puppy dog eyes* :p

[Billy]

First of all I would love some Jimping on the blade spine ( at least an inch or so). I would also love to see if they could be offered with a combo edged and/or serrated blade. We have yet to see a Spyderco Hawkbill with a CE blade. However a fully serrated one would fit my wishes >> Do you agree with me AREND :) ????? I don't ever want to see Spyderco abandon what helped to bring them this far>> that being the Spyderedge ;)

What might the rest of you think about that suggestion?

Totally agree with the jimping on the spine. I really like it on my Tasman and my Harpy and Merlin feel a little naked in comparison without it. Also, I'm not a fan of CE blades in general, but would definitely like to see this knife offered in both PE and SE configs.

Billy

[mrappraisit]

Starling and all the other "Hawkheads" are going to be dangerous to my CC balance. I have to stop looking at this thread because that knife looks so cool:D
Shawn

[Agent Starling]

First of all I would love some Jimping on the blade spine ( at least an inch or so). I would also love to see if they could be offered with a combo edged and/or serrated blade. We have yet to see a Spyderco Hawkbill with a CE blade. However a fully serrated one would fit my wishes >> Do you agree with me AREND :) ????? I don't ever want to see Spyderco abandon what helped to bring them this far>> that being the Spyderedge ;)

What might the rest of you think about that suggestion? Even if you don't like serrations you got to admit that Spyderco's are the best ones on the market.

Holy SpyderEDGE!!!! Batman :D
Wow! Out of the BatCave early in the morning and chock full of ideas as always, JD...jimping would be nice...as for the PE, I'm happy with it as it is, I like the nice, clean, elegant, ever-so-slightly curved edge of the new blade, but I totally vote for a SE and CE version to please all the Spyderheads. :D

I can only see the offering of more than one edge configuration translating into more sales for Spyderco, since it will give collectors a reason to buy more than one of these knives, and it will give users who might need those serrations an impetus to buy it, who may not otherwise...

And, yeah, Spyderco's serrations do totally rock! :cool:

Yours in the pursuit of Justice and more Hawkbills,

Agent Starling

[JD Spydo]

Wow! Out of the BatCave early in the morning and chock full of ideas as always, JD...jimping would be nice..

I can only see the offering of more than one edge configuration translating into more sales for Spyderco, since it will give collectors a reason to buy more than one of these knives

And, yeah, Spyderco's serrations do totally rock! :cool:

Yours in the pursuit of Justice and more Hawkbills,

Agent Starling

I know I've beat that drum concerning a CE blade quite a few times but I've just never seen a Hawkbill in CE. It would be curious to see just how they would sell. That would be another "First" for Spyderco.

I too love the elegance of a PE Hawkbill as I own many of them myself. However for hard use I have found few of them that are as good of users as my G-10 SE Harpy. There are some folks who are going to use these blades instead of building enviable collections>>> and for those who are hard users of Hawkbills we need to help them facilitate a better workday.

I'm just more than glad that the Spyderco Hawkbill tradition won't die but will have a "Phoenix" of a rebirth and will spur the use & collecting of these fine blades. The Harpy has made it's statement and now it's time to move forward. Using is believing with newer, misunderstood blade types as I personally discovered with the Dodo. Time to turn the page and get ready for the next chapter. :cool:

[Michael Cook]

:spyder: I'm excited to get a pe hawkbill in vg10, I found the pe h1 tasman to be a bit mediocre in performance, hart to get scary sharp and doesn't stay sharp long. The super hawk looks like a truly wonderful MBC tool and plain edge is the way to go for self protection (ymmv) :spyder:

[Agent Starling]

Starling and all the other "Hawkheads" are going to be dangerous to my CC balance. I have to stop looking at this thread because that knife looks so cool:D
Shawn
But you know you want to look...;) :D

Agent Starling

[Michael Cook]

Starling and all the other "Hawkheads" are going to be dangerous to my CC balance. I have to stop looking at this thread because that knife looks so cool:D
Shawn

:spyder: Don't fear the power. :spyder:

[kodeslinger]

I know I've beat that drum concerning a CE blade quite a few times but I've just never seen a Hawkbill in CE. It would be curious to see just how they would sell. That would be another "First" for Spyderco.




Hi, I'm new, but I couldn't help but wonder:

Isn't the Byrd version of the Hawkbill available in both PE and CE?

I just bought the PE version cause the shop I buy my knives from doesn't sell the CE version.

I'm hoping for a G-10 version of the Byrd sometime in the future, because that would be awesome, and eventually hope to buy a proper Harpy/Superhawk.

Like some of you guys, I was drawn to the Spyderco brand at first by Dr. Lector's sharp claw ;).

[spydutch]

Hey JD you must be kidding:confused:

Will the superhawk first come in PE/CE only:confused: :mad: :mad: Tell me this isn't true!!!

In that case I suppose I'll have to save up for a trip to Golden..........

But all kidding aside I sure want to have a fully serrated Superhawk:D. Man would that be a cutting beast. Not very NKP friendly though but hey....:rolleyes:

[Billy]

I'm hoping for a G-10 version of the Byrd sometime in the future, because that would be awesome, and eventually hope to buy a proper Harpy/Superhawk.

First, welcome to the forums!

Second, Sal has confirmed that G-10 Crossbills are in the works. 2008 could be the year of the hawkbill in Spydieville!

Billy

[kodeslinger]

sweet!

Now I can buy the g-10 flight and g-10 crossbill at the same time.

Hm.. maybe I have to get 2 crossbills, one PE and one CE..


and then a matching flight in SS argh it never ends :D

[Billy]

sweet!

Now I can buy the g-10 flight and g-10 crossbill at the same time.

Hm.. maybe I have to get 2 crossbills, one PE and one CE..


and then a matching flight in SS argh it never ends :D

Embrace your addiction...:cool:

Billy

[Agent Starling]

Isn't the Byrd version of the Hawkbill available in both PE and CE?
Yes.


I'm hoping for a G-10 version of the Byrd sometime in the future, because that would be awesome, and eventually hope to buy a proper Harpy/Superhawk.
I'd get a Harpy before a Byrd...nothing against the Byrds, though, I like them too...:)


Like some of you guys, I was drawn to the Spyderco brand at first by Dr. Lector's sharp claw ;).
That was a Harpy! :cool:

Agent Starling

[LOOKABIRD]

Like some of you guys, I was drawn to the Spyderco brand at first by Dr. Lector's sharp claw ;).

That's why I bought a Tasman! It was the closest thing I could find to a PE hawkbill in my price range :D

Tom

[Blackhair]

Hey Mr. Blonde, I'm trying to get a sense of the size of this knife, and since you've handled it... :rolleyes:

Dimensions please. :D

[Agent Starling]

All right, even thought the Superhawk may be months away (??) I'm not gonna forget about it just 1 short week after this thread was started,no...;)

still dreaming of a SUPERHAWK with a NICE CHIANTI thank you very much!!!:D

Agent Starling

[Blackhair]

still dreaming of a SUPERHAWK with a NICE CHIANTI thank you very much!!!:D

Agent Starling

Don't forget the Fava Beans. :p


I think that once this knife comes out, it, along with a G-10 PE Caly3, will be my main EDC's.

When I first started looking at this knife, I thought that it might be better with a low-rider wire clip, but now I'm starting to like the idea of having it accessible for a little higher draw. :cool:

[JD Spydo]

The Superhawk will be here I'm sure in the next few weeks. The Harpy will finally have a successor and companion blade for Hawkbill users.

Oh sure collectors will gobble up a few of them but there will be many users sold as well. With a curvature being a bit less than it's predecessor the Harpy it will more than likely appeal to many Hawkbill users and set the stage for growing Hawkbill usage.

I do see a new trend on the horizon concerning Hawkbills and specialty Spyders in general. With the Superhawk and P'Kal paving the way I'm sure we'll be seeing many more specialty Spyders that will appeal to users as well as collectors.

This could be a very pivotal move on Spyderco's behalf in regard to marketing more specialty knives. Let the show begin :cool:

[Blackhair]

I'm bumping this thread for two reasons:

1) I refuse to let it die! :p

and 2) I need to know the dimensions on this knife! :eek:

Anyone who's handled this knife wanna chime in? *choughMrBlondeorSalcough*

:D

[JD Spydo]

Shamedly to admit I don't know the exact dimensions of the SUPERHAWK but I do know that it's size lies between the Harpy & Spyderhawk.

I don't think that the SUPERHAWK will be alone because I do believe that it will stir up fanfare for future Spyderco Hawkbills.

This model will provoke Spyderco knife users to take Hawkbills seriously as users. The SUPERHAWK without a doubt is a new Chapter for utility blades.

[Blackhair]

I hope that its size is closer to the Harpy than the Spyderhawk. Not only do I prefer smaller knives (around a 3" blade), due to having small hands; but I think that a slightly smaller blade would help promote a somewhat more sheeple-friendly aura (along with the plain edge and shallow curve of the knife).

While I think that the Superhawk has the potential to open people's eyes toward the abilities of hawkbills, I think that a larger knife could be a real turnoff for a lot of people.

If it is a larger knife, might I put forward the suggestion of a Mini-Superhawk? :D

[catamount]

The Superhawk has a 3.5" blade.

http://spyderco.com/forums/showthread.php?p=334862&highlight=Superhawk#post334862
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=457174&page=2

[Blackhair]

Thanks for the dimensions, catamount. :cool:

Well, 3.5 inch blade is admittedly a little bit larger than I would have liked, but I'll just have to wait and see.

One of the things that I noticed when I got my Pacific Salt was how much bigger it felt than my Cara Cara, even though the Pacific is actually a hair smaller! I'm not sure why my Cara Cara seemed to have such an illusion of smallness (maybe the finger choil), but perhaps the Superhawk will have the same illusion of smallness to it.

That's what I'm hoping for, anyway. ;)

[tonydahose]

do we have any idea of a price? i found a place where i can get a spyderhawk and i am debating if i should wait for the new one.

[catamount]

MSRP is $320. US street price should be in the $200-250 range.

[JspyEDC]

MSRP is $320. US street price should be in the $200-250 range.

I haven't spoken with anyone in Golden regarding price, but it seems to me that $320.00 MSRP would be a tad high since the Stretch II has full-tang ZDP-189 and the same CF handle material, yet retails for "only" $279.95....?

Based on the Stretch II price, I would have guesstimated around $249.95 with VG-10 steel.

anyone have an ETA?

[Agent Starling]

I haven't spoken with anyone in Golden regarding price, but it seems to me that $320.00 MSRP would be a tad high since the Stretch II has full-tang ZDP-189 and the same CF handle material, yet retails for "only" $279.95....?

tad high alright...egads!...but somewhere on these forums a few months ago i recall seeing an MSRP > $300!!!:eek:

Agent Starling

[Agent Starling]

I hope that its size is closer to the Harpy than the Spyderhawk. Not only do I prefer smaller knives (around a 3" blade), due to having small hands; but I think that a slightly smaller blade would help promote a somewhat more sheeple-friendly aura (along with the plain edge and shallow curve of the knife).

to heckle with the sheeple...bring on the bad@$$ SuperDuperHawk in all its glory...speaking of size, i'd love a hawkbill a bit smaller than my beloved Harpy, sort of like the Matriarch is a bit smaller than the Civilian but does the same thing...:cool: :D

When I go to sleep tonight I'ma count hawkbills...:rolleyes: :)

Agent Starling

[JD Spydo]

to heckle with the sheeple...bring on the bad@$$ SuperDuperHawk in all its glory...speaking of size, i'd love a hawkbill a bit smaller than my beloved Harpy, sort of like the Matriarch is a bit smaller than the Civilian but does the same thing...:cool: :D

When I go to sleep tonight I'ma count hawkbills...:rolleyes: :)

Agent Starling

GOD Love you Sister~~~ GOD Love you~~You truly have a heart made out of GOLD and ZDP-189 :cool: >>> and in the shape of a Hawkbill I might add :D

And I will go as far as to say that to be a "True-Blue" Citizen of Spyderville and a totally bonafide Spyderco Afficionado you just have to like Spyderco's Hawkbills. And Agent Starling you are a "Sterling" example for all of us to follow.

A superior role model indeed :cool: I endorse Agent Starling as Spyderville's Hawkbill spokesperson.

[Blackhair]

A superior role model indeed :cool: I endorse Agent Starling as Spyderville's Hawkbill spokesperson.

Hear, hear! :D

[Agent Starling]

Bump! ;)

[JT]

A superior role model indeed :cool: I endorse Agent Starling as Spyderville's Hawkbill spokesperson.

I'm with you on this JD! Just don't leave those Reverse S 's alone.. so how about curved ones spokesperson :D

[Blackhair]

Well, if we're handing out spokesperson roles, I nominate myself for the position of Leaf-shaped blade spokesperson. :p

No, but seriously. Starling bumping this thread has just rekindled the fire inside me for the SUPERHAWK!

The fire had never died, mind you, just subsided to a low smolder. :D

I've already decided that I want this knife in my EDC, and it isn't even out yet! :eek:

[David Lowry]

As long as it stays a Compression lock and the price stays less than or equal to about $125 I will buy one. Don't know anything about it yet, but Hopefully it will be VG-10 or S30V or CPM-D2.


MSRP is $320. US street price should be in the $200-250 range.

:eek: Nevermind. No way I can afford that kind of cash layout.

I'll have to stick to knives $120 and below. The only knife I own that costs about $150 was gifted to me. I just can't think of that kind of outlay for one knife. Just me. ;)

[Blackhair]

Well, considering the fact that it's being made in Seki-City (from what I last heard), I would assume that the blade steel is VG-10. Can anyone confirm this? :confused:

[Blackhair]

BUMP! :D

This pic was posted over at Bladeforums today, and even though it doesn't show anything beyond the production prototype (wishful thinking), it does show the knife in an as-of-yet unseen half-open position. Not that exciting, I know, but even a crust of bread is a feast to a dying man. ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/blackhairtp/CIMG5010.jpg

and... since we're posting pictures, I'm going to re-post the classic Amsterdam Meet pictures here, so that you don't need to go all the way back to the front page to compare to this new exciting picture! :rolleyes:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/blackhairtp/amsterdammeet2007_superhawk.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/blackhairtp/amsterdammeet2007_superhawk_closedc.jpg

The EXCITEMENT!! :eek: (:rolleyes:)

[ragingwolf66]

What an exciting model. I cant wait for Shot to be over so the rest of us can play!!!