Is the mood of the forum changing

[aj1985]

Hey guys how are yah
I realize I myself have made more than enough posts about many things, but I always try not to speak out of place as much as I can.

Is it just me or is the mood of the forum changing somewhat.

There are more and more threads that are asking questions that have been asked so many times before.

There are people making comments about Chinese made Spydies who aren't even fully understanding the subject, but are making many comments.

People having discussion on where to find these Spydies or those Spydies, and Sig line etiquette discussions.

It just seems there is a bombardment in just the last week of the above. I have my own opinion, and I'm not really saying it's wrong or not, but just thinking that the mood has changed quite a bit within the last week. Is anyone else noticing this as well or is it just me.

take care and if this offends anyone or improper I'll be more than happy to take it down.

aj

[ozspyder]

AJ,

I too have noticed the slight change of 'tone'. Is it me or have the more 'senior' members all taken a bit of a hiatus ? Maybe this is part of the reason of the change. No elders to keep the young'uns in check :)

Still a few seniors here, but some seemed to have been taking a holiday or something??? Anyone else notice this too ?

[aj1985]

AJ,

I too have noticed the slight change of 'tone'. Is it me or have the more 'senior' members all taken a bit of a hiatus ? Maybe this is part of the reason of the change. No elders to keep the young'uns in check :)

Still a few seniors here, but some seemed to have been taking a holiday or something??? Anyone else notice this too ?

Datan you are one of our Seniors.

It just seems that there is a lot of young blood coming in and a lot of them being very crass. It's just if you asked me last week I would have been very happy, but now I'm not quite happy with this situation.

[zenheretic]

Probably the best thing to do is lead by example.
Sometimes a quiet pm can do the trick as well.
If nothing else the report post button is always on.
Just like people's moods the forum will ebb and flow a bit, but it is up to the members to keep it within the banks. Keep the sandbags on standby, the bilge pumps at the ready.

Hehe this is all very ironic if you were to wade through all my posts you would see me making some of the same comments that have bothered you now. (not about China but other stuff) People can grow, if you give them some good sunlight. :)

[Zenith]

I agree.

Before posting/starting a new thread people should really just use the search function and see if the topic was raised before. I feel that some people also just post to get their posting count up without saying anything meaningful.

[zenheretic]

Well no one obligates anyone to answer a thread if it is overly redundant. Remember there are all levels of computer users out there from the hyper tech savy to the person taking their first tenative cyber steps. Sometimes a person is unsure of how to get started in a forum or how forums even work, especially if English is a second language. Really none of that should bother you as much as someone who posts a controversial statement and runs off to never post in the thread again. That is known as trolling. Not that anyone here would do that. :rolleyes:

[swingshot]

Discussion of discontinued models seems like something that is going to come up again and again. Particularly since some models are unique, never being replaced, just phased out.

Even if people are expressly disallowed from starting threads on where to get a discontinued item, even if "Wanted" signatures are prohibited, discussion between Private Messages will probably still happen.

I also (personally) think strict enforcement of such policies would be quite unfriendly and the tone of this forum is generally friendly.


TBH, my patience was tested a few times in the last week or so. Not so much in relation to basic questions, but in relation to unrealistic expectations.
If we value the friendly tone of this forum, we have a duty to try to and preserve that tone in the responses we make.



Like zenhereitc said, try to lead by example.

[telemeister]

Hi guys,

I have noticed that forums where members vigourously monitor rules become exceptionally unfriendly and end up in being 'flame fests'. This would be bad for both us and Spyderco.

I think if we try and keep it 'light' and answer questions with civility and good cheer, we will provide valuable insight to our fellow forumites and to the very good people at Spyderco.

[Zenith]

Well no one obligates anyone to answer a thread if it is overly redundant. Remember there are all levels of computer users out there from the hyper tech savy to the person taking their first tenative cyber steps. Sometimes a person is unsure of how to get started in a forum or how forums even work, especially if English is a second language. Really none of that should bother you as much as someone who posts a controversial statement and runs off to never post in the thread again. That is known as trolling. Not that anyone here would do that. :rolleyes:


Valid points zenheretic.

[Michael Cook]

:spyder: The kids these days are weak and they wear their pants too low. In my day a feller had to walk two miles to get stoned and have sex. :spyder:

[EarthDog]

:spyder: The kids these days are weak and they wear their pants too low. In my day a feller had to walk two miles to get stoned and have sex. :spyder:

Man, I miss the old days!

It does seem to me that the Forum is going through a cycle, but I've also been a new state myself. Work has been more demanding, and I have more attention on that. It may be like that for a lot of us.

God bless.

[The Deacon]

:spyder: The kids these days are weak and they wear their pants too low. In my day a feller had to walk two miles to get stoned and have sex. :spyder:Ya young pup! Heck it my day it was FIVE miles, and uphill both ways!

On a more serious note, no, I don't see anything going on here right now that has not happened here before. "Hot button topics" come and go, but the worst "flame war" ever here pales in comparison to everyday life on many other fora. Old members find new interests, knife related or otherwise. The Holiday season brings a number of first-time owners here. Winter break increases the number of young people.

[dedguy]

This place is among the most laid back easy going forums I have ever been to. Deacon makes a good point, the worst ever arguments on this forum are nothing compared to what goes on daily on most others. Just venture into some movie forum sometime... egads.

[tonydahose]

i have noticed a lil bit too and i like what Zen said....lead by example. as far as that sig thing goes...i think it is tolerated by the powers that be and it can easily be abolished if it gets pushed too far. as a former cop and a firefighter there are perks to the job and it always ends up that a few screw it up for the rest of us and i think that is what is going to happen with this. i know not everyone agrees with the "wanted sig" line but it helped me get a blue lum and a rare endura so i am not going to bad mouth it. the new guys need to learn some discretion which means very tiny font and stop all the where do i get knife X posts. just my opinion and i am just a tiny cog in the big spydie wheel.

[lerman]

Ya young pup! Heck it my day it was FIVE miles, and uphill both ways!
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:D ,i love this place, allot of new guys have joined lately, but it's good, the bast thing to do is to show them the spirit here, and if a problematic question pops up then we only need to calmly explain, i have a rule, i DON'T replay to threads that don't go anywhere, you know what kind of threads I'm talking about, you should see the guys on the Israeli forums here, "i need a knife that is super sharp and good for stabbing and cutting throats, and also for cutting rocks and nails":D :D :D (seriously)

[ghostrider]

H...

There are more and more threads that are asking questions that have been asked so many times before.

...If you do a search, you'll see this topic has been covered before.:D :D :p

Fact is that these things are just the nature of forums.

[tonydahose]

If you do a search, you'll see this topic has been covered before.:D :D :p



hey deja vu...lol

[jujigatame]

How does the saying go...you don't know what you don't know. Most folks catch on pretty quick in terms of etiquette, getting a good handle on Spyderco in general, finding other resources for information about Spydercos, etc. Those that don't probably won't stick around.

99 times out of 100 here, if people ask questions it's because they earnestly want to know, not because they want to be annoying.

Zen talked about folks who may be participating in a forum for the first time of any kind and that's a good point. Consider also that it may feel intimidating for some folks who are comfortable with the web but who come here starting from zero in terms of Spyder-knowledge and see all the terminology and background information we casually toss off in thread after thread. I lurk around CPF sometimes and I see stuff that's way over my head. I would take cautious, and perhaps clumsy, steps if I ever decided to post there because I don't know what I don't know.

[yablanowitz]

Always remember, "Ignore" is your friend. In any group of about four or more, there will always be someone that you just can't stand. That doen't mean they are without merit, only that their personality doesn't mesh with your own. I imagine that I'm on a few ignore lists. I'm an opinionated old cuss, and not everyone shares my views on all things. Anyone who doesn't like it is free to put me on ignore. I try not to be that annoying, but any time you tell the truth as you see it, you are bound to offend someone. My own ignore list here is tiny compared to my BF ignore list.

[swingshot]

:spyder: The kids these days are weak and they wear their pants too low. In my day a feller had to walk two miles to get stoned and have sex. :spyder:


Ya young pup! Heck it my day it was FIVE miles, and uphill both ways!




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[aj1985]

I appreciate the responses guys

It's just maybe I expect a bit more out of this forum, because it has always been a good one. Plus it's quite small it's like a community.

So many threads about such mundane things.

Lets puts H1 in everything (Yes we live underneath the ocean):p
Sprint run when the models are currently available for a few dollars more:D

All in all you gotta pay to play I guess most have not understood this yet:D


In my day if you want sex just have a dial up connection and a web cam will suffice. :D

aj

[*Cho*]

Well no one obligates anyone to answer a thread if it is overly redundant. Remember there are all levels of computer users out there from the hyper tech savy to the person taking their first tenative cyber steps. Sometimes a person is unsure of how to get started in a forum or how forums even work, especially if English is a second language. Really none of that should bother you as much as someone who posts a controversial statement and runs off to never post in the thread again. That is known as trolling. Not that anyone here would do that. :rolleyes:

I think this sums it up pretty good, but also you have to consider that some people get mad when old threads get drugded up ( I don't think I've seen that here but I have seen it at other sites). Also if someone brings back an old thread some people may just ignore it due to its date.

Sometimes making a new thread is the best way to go in terms of help.

Yes it is good to do a search to see if your question is asked before, but it never hurts to inquiry again. Besides if someone has answered the question in the past you can always just post a link to that thread and let the person know to give it a good a read.

[scout]

Heck, I don't post very often, but if I hadn't been around for a while, all the terminology would kill me! It's kinda like our secret handshake;) There are a lot of new and "interesting" questions out there. I lurked for a long time before I became a participant and as a result I didn't have too many hiccups along the way.

[mrappraisit]

The thing about searches is you can type every possible (in your mind) variant into the search engine and still not find something that was previously posted.
I'm not trying to start a huge and heavy discussion regarding searching before posting but it's just the truth. Also, posting a new thread may give people a chance to offer a new, or changed opinion/response on something they have answered before.
I say if these things don't bother Sal, then why does it bother the rest of us, he's paying the bill after all.:)

P.S. Where is the Tenacious made? (just kidding)

[mikebandw186]

Whenever i get annoyed at things that happen here, i usually leave, check Bladeforums, and come back, refreshed at what i find.

We all should try to remember that even if we think we know way more than someone else about Spyderco, there is somebody else that knows way more than we ourselves do.

There are times when i would like to call somebody out for meaningless threads, but i can remember a time when most of my posts were either threads started that could have just been through the search system, or thread-killers. So i'm thinking it's best to just move on, or like has been suggested, a friendly PM might be appropriate.

[Vincent]

Ya young pup! Heck it my day it was FIVE miles, and uphill both ways!

On a more serious note, no, I don't see anything going on here right now that has not happened here before. "Hot button topics" come and go, but the worst "flame war" ever here pales in comparison to everyday life on many other fora. Old members find new interests, knife related or otherwise. The Holiday season brings a number of first-time owners here. Winter break increases the number of young people.

According to my grandpa it was 20 miles through a blizzard in bare feet.

As to the main topic. I don't come very much as I am just to busy, im a full time student and am currently doing some research on compiler design. It just takes alot of time, many nites i get 3-4 hrs of sleep max, so other things much sacrifice. But be sure everyday no matter where I am I have a spydie on my side.

And the rest of my time is debating on Politics and trying to get these College kids to wake up from being hip liberals and getting used to the reality that collectivism never works.

[The Mastiff]

According to my grandpa it was 20 miles through a blizzard in bare feet.

No, that was to get to school. I heard that too. And my dad picked potato's all day at age 12 for 5 cents during the depression.

Where I grew up it was like that movie "Dazed and confused". 1976, but Ohio and everybody was less circumspective and much more stoned.. I lived on a hill that had over 20% grades on one side so we walked as little as possible. I had to hitchike to Akron and back for school though during high school.

As far as the forum goes I know some old timers that left because of the "tone" of this place. Rather than have it come to that, like Yablanowitz says "Always remember, "Ignore" is your friend." Joe

[bluemist]

The Internet is serious business. :cool:

[aj1985]

The Internet is serious business. :cool:

so is knowing when to use proper emoticons :D

[jaislandboy]

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lol, hey thanks swingshot, Michael Palin kills me :D :p :D

..."Rather than have it come to that, like Yablanowitz says "Always remember, "Ignore" is your friend...." - TheMastiff

ah, the pearl of the day, thanks for reminding Joe ....I recall reading this advice from a post made by TheDeacon couple of years back...time for me to follow that advice.... ;)

[igrowbamboo]

I'm just going to ignore this thread.
Ignorance is bliss.:p

[Agent Starling]

Is it just me or is the mood of the forum changing somewhat.
To my eye it has changed a lot within the past 6 months...I guess that's neither good or bad...the way I look at it is, like anything else it'll go thru cycles...in the short time I've been here I've noticed a change in tone several times, it seems that a couple years ago the heated threads were REALLY heated, like none I've seen since...so that's a good thing...

Sometimes people get busy with other things as well, as someone has already said...they usually seem to come back eventually...if not, que sera...it's really out of our hands...:D

Agent Starling :D

[David Lowry]

I've not noticed anything. However I've been busy and have not really been able to spend but about 20 minutes total browsing this forum for this entire week.

[vampyrewolf]

If you think it's dead now, wait for summer break :p

Some of us never leave, we just take breaks. Folks get bored, interests change, work/family gain importance. This is a pretty good forum as far as being self regulating. The ignore button works just as well as the report button... I've only got 3-4 on my ignore list still.

Usually when I've got time at night to poke online, I've got my nose in another book.

[flipe8]

I try to post only when I have something to say, or if I feel it can contribute. I'm still slowly learning that I don't HAVE to post in every thread. Like it's been said by Zen, leading by example does work, eventhough it can be a somewhat slow learning curve at times. If there are very strong-willed posters whom are looking to get reactions, they'll get bored quickly enough if their goals aren't met.
Still the best, most civil forum on the net that I've come across.

[Manix Guy 2]

At times there has been disturbing things here but not what I would say something to raise my hands up and say this is enough ! Sure there are repeats of threads started , I have made this mistake myself and members have still been kind enough to help me , which is a great positive . Sharing is a good thing , our opinions are valuable , expression the tone of this Forum , our respect for one another is the nature I try to uphold on this Forum .MG2

[Brad S.]

I for one was very impressed when I first found this forum. (I lurked for nearly 2 years before I even joined) One of the reason I hang here more than any other forum is the fact that the folks here are friendly enough to answer questions even if a simple search would find the answer. That In my mind says something about the character of the folks on this forum.

I know I don’t fit into the category of senior members. But I plan on hanging around. I feel I have come to know each of you to a point and gotten to know your personalitys and quirks though your posts. Sure new faces appear all the time, some faces appear and have 1000's of post that I don’t think I have ever seen before. It wouldnt suprise me if some of you said that about me. I have recently decided to not post unless I feel I can actually contribute to a topic. The babble and dumb jokes or side comments I have posted sometimes is just unnecessary and garbles up the forum.

I havent posted here in quite a while.
For one, I have been insanely busy.
Two, every time I come in, something that has been discussed 10 times before is being discussed again. But I feel, in way, that’s due to what’s going on in Spyderco these days. What is there really to talk about at the moment, we haven’t seen any new models in a bit of time. Granted new variants, but nothing really bad new except the Tenacious. Which seems to have some controversy with some folks for some reason. I feel the forum dynamic will change again as we see new models hit the streets. The Urban, Superhawk, Rocklobster, Phoenix, The new Lum, Schemp khukri. I feel the forum will come back to life, with some real and meaningful discussions as new things begin to happen within Spyderco.

[Daniel]

Everyone is new at some time.

What is a "senior" member? Is this a union shop?;)

[ken]

Everyone is new at some time.

What is a "senior" member? Is this a union shop?;)

Dan,

This is a very good question.

Maybe you have to be over 63 years of age, or a member of AARP....something like that.

ken

[Slick]

To be clear, I have nothing of value to add here so...

Oh WOW!!! I've made post 339!!!

What? There is/was a subject here? No problem with this post since the point of posting is to ratchet up my total posts.

I hope everyone can appreciate my sense of humour.

Sometimes I forget which side of the pond I'm on.

Does humor/humour have the u in North Carolina or not? No problem since I still get to feel important by posting and get 339!

Nobody bother to answer since I'll check humour/humor after I post this useless post. Is it like colour/color?

In all seriousness the membership of this forum is constantly changing. Some come and some go. It is up to the guys who hang around to guide the newer members as to correct and less-correct forum manners.

[Jay_Ev]

I haven't been an active participant long enough to be able to tell if the mood of the forum is changing. However, I have seen on this forum as well as many others instances where members with thousands of posts tend to thumb their nose so to speak at other members who only have a handful of posts. I, for one, am against forums keeping count of how many posts each member has as it often leads many to incorrectly assume that someone with very few posts has not spent a lot of time browsing (or 'lurking') the forum. Often times, people browse for years before finally diving in and participating. Maybe they feel intimidated. Maybe they are shy. Whatever the reason, it is inappropriate to judge someone based on their post count or join date. Just my 2¢.

-Jay

[Jenner 515]

Yes, definitely the mood of the forum is changing.

For the first time in my 6 years of reading the Spyderco Forum I put someone on the ignore list; because they are rehashing everything multiple times without actually reading the responses, they also took a run at another established member of the forum.

If I wanted redundant questions without regard to the answers provided...I'd still work at Home Depot.

If I wanted to observe disrespect to an older, wiser, kinder gentleman...I'd volunteer to work as one of Santa's elves at the mall at Christmastime.

[jaislandboy]

Yes, definitely the mood of the forum is changing.

For the first time in my 6 years of reading the Spyderco Forum I put someone on the ignore list; because they are rehashing everything multiple times without actually reading the responses, they also took a run at another established member of the forum.

If I wanted redundant questions without regard to the answers provided...I'd still work at Home Depot.

If I wanted to observe disrespect to an older, wiser, kinder gentleman...I'd volunteer to work as one of Santa's elves at the mall at Christmastime.

+1
without a doubt, I believe certain individuals have joined the forums only to "bad mouth" spyderco products (in general) and I've noticed some forumites asking rather inane(some folks would categorize such questions as just plain stupidity or total ignorance) .... which I'm more familiar seeing such moronic questions in the General Discussion section of a certain other (much larger) forums that i frequent.... I guess these are the "growing pains" that need to be endured :rolleyes: sad and pathetic imho :mad:

[bh49]

Yes, definitely the mood of the forum is changing.

For the first time in my 6 years of reading the Spyderco Forum I put someone on the ignore list; because they are rehashing everything multiple times without actually reading the responses, they also took a run at another established member of the forum.

If I wanted redundant questions without regard to the answers provided...I'd still work at Home Depot.

If I wanted to observe disrespect to an older, wiser, kinder gentleman...I'd volunteer to work as one of Santa's elves at the mall at Christmastime.

+2
This thread came in right time. I feel the same as the most of the members.
On possitive note I would like to say, than I saw several older members came back, which is a good thing :)

[bluemist]

Most of the older, wiser, more knowledgeable members aint gonna get no award for congeniality.. however respect is another thing altogether, If I'm at anytime lacking respect I want to be called out..please.

this post is a little heavy, perhaps lighten up...

[Agent Starling]

Last year I remember reading posts from some of the old timers that the forum always goes through a change around springtime...so I guess however it might have changed already, hang on for the change about to come! :D

Agent Starling

[mrappraisit]

Last year I remember reading posts from some of the old timers that the forum always goes through a change around springtime...so I guess however it might have changed already, hang on for the change about to come! :D

Agent Starling

Maybe the forum changed early due to global warming?:)

[araneae]

Hey guys how are yah
I realize I myself have made more than enough posts about many things, but I always try not to speak out of place as much as I can.

Is it just me or is the mood of the forum changing somewhat.

There are more and more threads that are asking questions that have been asked so many times before.

There are people making comments about Chinese made Spydies who aren't even fully understanding the subject, but are making many comments.

People having discussion on where to find these Spydies or those Spydies, and Sig line etiquette discussions.

It just seems there is a bombardment in just the last week of the above. I have my own opinion, and I'm not really saying it's wrong or not, but just thinking that the mood has changed quite a bit within the last week. Is anyone else noticing this as well or is it just me.

take care and if this offends anyone or improper I'll be more than happy to take it down.

aj

You raise some points that I agree with. Some newer folks seem to jump in with both feet & ask a million questions and start threads that have been been covered before. If you're a noob or a vet, the search function is your friend.

Some members seem to be here to bash Spyderco and be argumentative, ignoring them is the best way to ensure they lose interest and go elsewhere.

We are human and most of us are guilty of a silly thread or two, but overall the members here are good people. I will keep coming back, I like most of you and look forward to checking out the forum when I can. I also feel this forum is different than others, like a family of :spyder: knuts. Hopefully we can keep the mood positive and constructive.

[Simple Man]

Maybe the forum changed early due to global warming?:)

Nope, all the global warming was canceled out last year, it's all about global cooling now. Com'on, get with the style. :rolleyes:

[mrappraisit]

Nope, all the global warming was canceled out last year, it's all about global cooling now. Com'on, get with the style. :rolleyes:

Sorry about that, I should have done a search before I posted that ;) :D

[Chucula]

The mood has changed because the members have changed. I know I am no longer as enthusiastic as I used to be about knives and spyderco, and I wouldn't be surprised if others have also lost some interest. Only reason I still hang around here is because of the people and rumors of a new millie ;)

I dont have a problem with new members asking many questions without searching; they are just excited. I always liked the "help me chose my first spyderco knife" threads. If the members create a lot of stupid posts, I just add them to the ignore list. No big deal :D

[RLR]

Ignore list is your friend! I hadn't used it much, but I'm starting now. There just seems to be too much "chatter" on super-specific things - where do you carry what knife at what time and what did your cousin's wife say about it... or the ever popular "can we get model x, with the following changes, blah, blah, blah..."

Some folks don't realize the community they are part of, and sometimes don't act as accepted in that community.

Anyway, "ignore" the chumps, hope the trolls go away, in the end, the good guys will still be there.

[aj1985]

I fully agree with many comments, but I do not want to put people on ignore.
The only reason is because in the future they may get lucky and contribute something important :p

The two threads that bug the hell out of me are knives with different options and also have you seen the prices of this and thats why we should have the sprint run. People need to understand you have to pay to play. I'm all for sprint runs, but knives long ago discontinued and with better materials. Many models people want sprint runs of are currently available for a bit more money.

aj

[WOTANSON1]

It seems to me that the forums recycle themselves every 18 months or so. Since I joined in November of 03' I've witnessed about 200 SE vs. PE threads for example. Newbies keep the forum fresh IMHO, but yes "search" is your friend. I find myself visiting less now than I did when I joined (I actually quit some months ago but couldn't stay away for too long), probably due to my concentration on custom and semi custom knives. One thing I have noticed is that the level of ignorance and hostility towards knives that aren't Spyderco's is at an all time high (and I'm not talking about Benchmade). People want to share pics of their customs or non Spyderco knives and more often than not it's met with a "I don't see why you would pay that kinda money for a knife" or "Looks like my Native, so I'll save my money and buy more Spyderco's" crap rather than "hey nice score, could you tell me a bit more about the knife/maker", or just shut yer trap if you don't have anything nice to say. I haven't had to put someone on my ignore list for about 3 years now, I have a high tolerance for annoying people who really aren't that annoying. If someone has an opinion that differs from mine, but can express it in an intelligent way, I'll listen.

Cheers,
Rob

[clovisc]

yea, i've seen some ridiculous posts... quite a number lately... and yea, sometimes they get annoying. but oftentimes, they're asked by someone who has only popped onto the forum as a temporary user, to get a quick answer to a specific question. ("how rare is this? what is this worth? which is the best knife for stabbing insects? why can't spyderco make a ceramic-bladed CE blade with mammoth ivory handles and a bottle opener?") oftentimes, they get the answer, and leave. or the question is ignored, and they leave. sometimes they actually learn, appreciate it, and stay... which can be great.

regular users have a pretty strong sense of community, and a solidified group identity here... including code of conduct, rules, etc... but not everyone who uses the forums temporarily has the same mentality. not everyone is interested in being an actual part of the community, either. and because of this not everyone is going to approach the forums with the same level of focus, and respect.

certain wild topics will always attract wild responses... such as the "china debate." avoiding poopstorms of that sort might be as simple as avoiding provokative conversations.

when i started using the forums, yea, i was clueless about all the "unseen rules." but i tried to read for a while before posting, to get a feel for the place... and i tried to begin posting with a review (on the scorpius, i believe... :D ) i approached it this way because i wanted to be a lasting part of the discussions here.

if i had a quick question, i'd be more likely to pop it off without much regard for what might have already been said.

but yea... some of the content of fleeting-posters... yikes.

[David Lowry]

I figure it this way, I used to be an annoying fool at some point, and I no longer am (in my opinion). I like to participate and be a part of this community that we all have here. Hopefully some of the folks making funny/crazy/annoying posts will stick around, learn, and be more productive.

I will try to give them the benefit of the doubt as you all have done for me.

;)

[stonyman]

I think many come from some of the other forums where there is a lot of flaming opinions. The ones where they must belittle or degrade someone else. I think piggybacking off of David, folks just need to get use to the genuiness of this forum, then become a part of it. Take care and God Bless You All!;)

[Jenner 515]

BTTT,

I just read a really disturbing exchange in the General Discussion Forum, that prompted ANOTHER visit to the Ignore feature.

Is it just me...am I becoming more intolerant in my old age?

>Rant Off<

Thanks

[psimonl]

I, for myself, don't post as often as I used ... House, work,you know the drill...

As for a change, I noticed a lot of new forumites, wich is good, but don't see as much "known faces" as I used too...

When Deacon mentioned "peoples get new passions" and the winter factor, well, he's right....

I supposed next summer will make not soo serious members dissapeared and the serious ones will stay.

Take care...

Simon

BTW' I don't mean any sarcastical comment by "serious members"

[HoB]

I, for myself, don't post as often as I used ... House, work,you know the drill...


I have been gone for nearly a year....there was a move, trying to find a new job, ....you know the drill :).

And, hey, there is the same (stupid) Strider thread running around on the off-topic forum that was so hot when I left, made me feel right at home....things can not have changed that much :D.

Seriously, though, there have always been times at which the tone seemed to have changed and it all settled down after a while. Sometimes, new members charge onto the forum, thinking this is an internet place like any other, and usually after some time they start to understand that it isn't. I would just give it some time.

[David Lowry]

I have learned a great deal here over the years. One of the biggest things I've learned is that the forum mood changes and good people and bad people come and go. Be nice to everyone if you can and ignore the fools. ;)