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Ed Schempp
02-18-2002, 12:00 AM
Posts: 3 Posted - 14 February 2002 18:36

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Over my years of bladesmithing I have observed a problem reoccuring that hurts the free flow of information. The problem is that occassionally pattern, design or material technology is often credited to the people whom get published first, not necessarily the innovator of that process or technology. I believe this distorts the truth, and makes the innovator reluctant to share new information for fear of being "ripped off". A proactive approach to solving this problem would be to develop an archival system, where with documentation an accurate chronological account of technological advancements within the industry could be recorded for all to view.

This effort might include a committee, group, or board of interested but disinterested people to evaluate and authorize the information to be archived. A web site to support this process might be necessary.

When a maker "discovers" a new process or technology several years might pass before the information is dissemenated to the site, giving that innovator the opportunity to capitalize economically on that information. But as soon as one person posts on that technology the flood gates will open and all parties of interest will post to protect thier contribution to the industry. I feel that this system will help the dissemination of information to the industry while protecting the innovators of that information. I believe that this is a win-win deal. As person get interested and pursues collecting of a type of knife they will be able the research the development of this category with the aid of this site. There will be benefit to both the innovator as well as the collector or user of knives. I'm very interested in any and all comments that would help develop this archival effort. This is a little like the U.S. patent system without the expense, lawsuits, and bad feelings. I believe that it would promote truth and education and overall advancement to the industry. This could apply to commercial as well as the handmade industry.

sam the man..
02-19-2002, 04:17 AM
Howdy Ed,

Welcome aboard the forums and thanks for sharing! Interesting thoughts... <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

Sam

have spydies will travel

Tightwad
02-19-2002, 01:23 PM
Spydernuts, Ed has a very good idea that he first posted in the
tech forum. Suggest that all who are interested in Ed's idea read
those post's also along with Sal's comments there.

This is our chance to help our hobby in a very positive way
with our comments and support. Since my thoughts are already
posted in the Tech forum you are invited to post your's here.

Let's show Ed &amp; Sa; just how much we DO like spyderco and
knives as a good &amp; decent hobby...........

Tightwad
02-21-2002, 08:49 AM
BTT. Come on guys don't let this go by with no comments.

sal
02-23-2002, 10:10 AM
This really is a subject that needs further development. It is interesting to note that in patents, the USA has always honored &quot;first to invent&quot;, where as the rest of the world always honored &quot;first to file&quot;. This is now changed as the US has gotten in with the rest of the world on patents so we can have a universal patent system.

Now in the USA as well, it is &quot;first to file&quot; which makes Ed's post even more true.

I think the problem is in the verification of the &quot;who&quot; where as &quot;first to file&quot; simply has a date to look up.

BTW, this quite a current issue. (I hope you don't mind, Ed), Ed is one of a very small group of custom knife makers that make some very sophisticated mosaic damascus.

The Spyderco Anniversary model coming out this year has bolsters made from mosaic damascus containing the Spyderco bug logo surrounded by webs. Ed has built these (500 sets) and they will be coming out some time this year.

Ed, I guess this forum can be considered some type of public notice that you do make this damascus, and it's dated.

I imagine a patent could be obtained on the process, but it would be difficult and expensive to enforce. Besides if only one person was doing this, the world would be robbed of the beauty available.

My suggestion is in a situation like this, the inventor publish a book of instruction on how to do it. The inventor might make a few bucks on the book, but he/she would certainly get the recognition for the invention, credit and thanx for the &quot;edge-u-cation&quot;.

sal

sam the man..
02-23-2002, 10:15 AM
<img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> Damascus? Ummm Sweeet! Uncle Ed, You 'R the MAN! <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> And thanks for the insight on the anniversary Spydie Poppa Spyder! <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>

Sam

have spydies will travel

Ed Schempp
02-25-2002, 08:06 PM
Gentlemen, Powder Mosaic Development in the NW has been a unique and special process born of free exchange of information, and strong and developing friendships. To get the process to the point it is today is the result of maybe a dozen innovators, all pursuing thier own path yet sharing freely. There are as many technics as people, all of them independent. By recording these technics, all would benefit and not be overlooked, all the guys I work and talk with have been my teachers. All these folks deserve credit, and by that unique nature of the development it is difficult and expensive to pursue a patent, Teledyne might already have it covered. Publishing is the route that will be followed, maybe not a text but the printed word is powerful....Thanks Ed