Contest: New Forum Spyderco Shopping Spree

[Joyce Laituri]

Welcome to the new Spyderco Forum.



Post your answer to the following question and you are entered.



"What factor(s) have ever kept you from buying a Spyderco product?"





THE PRIZES:

First Prize: $500.00 retail-value shopping spree at Spyderco.

First prize is valued in retail dollars usable only at Spyderco Inc. Dollars are good toward any product we have available and in stock, priced at our Manufacturers Suggested Retail Price. You can enter just once and the $500.00 credit must be used by September 18, 2000.



Second Prize: A C52SBK Calypso Jr. Lightweight (MSRP $66.95) and a

204 Tri-Angle Sharpmaker (MSRP $64.95)



Third Prize: A short-sleeved navy blue Spyderco tee-shirt and matching Spyderco ball cap.



Contest ends August 17th winner will be posted shortly after.



GOOD LUCK!

[Ewok]

Ran out of room in my safe.

[Bobby Branton]

Sal would not sell me one of his proto Civilians in carbon fiber :-)

Bobby

[Ferret]

I've never been a fan of the small (apart from Horn) or the FRN/Zytel Spyders and consequently don't own any. I couldn't buy the mythical G10 plainedge Civilian because I didn't have a spare $300 to find out if it existed for real. Ditto Bobby on the CF. My rate of buying Spyderco has slowed somewhat now I've reached the end of the current catalogue! <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

[john row]

I mentioned this before on Blade Forum. I'm left handed and the Viele model is the only Spydie I didn't buy. Simply because I couldn't open it left handed.
John Row
colobbfan

[stellite]

As a soulthpaw I am slow to buy any model that is right-handed only (linerlocks). In the past month I have bought a Horn (A.G.Russell flat ground) and a Hunter. Both have the back locking bar and are easy for me to operate.
On a related note, do you still have any of the left-handed Terzoulas? Thanks for the new forum!

[bcaffrey]

For me, it was the selling price being asked in retail outlets that stood in the way of sales. I don't mind paying a bit more than from online dealers, but sometimes the difference is quite substantial.

Cheers,
Brian

[Clay Kesting]

The look on my kids' faces when I told them that I would have to sell one of them so that I could buy a Lum tanto <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>.

Clay

p.s. I didn't.

[Frank]

I'm still searching for that something that will keep me from buying a Spyderco product.

[Blades]

I just didn't/don't have the money. School tuition for my son, copayments on medicine come first. But they are on my list to buy when I'm rich. : )


Blades

[Carlos]

1. &quot;Lower grade&quot; steels used for some of the economy/accessible models -- AUS 6, AUS 8, to a degree even ATS 55 (though I should know better). Perhaps as a knife knut it is a self-created problem, but these are an instant turn-off for me. If VG-10 were your basic steel (not just on Calypso Lite and Moran) I'd be happier and would be open to more models.

2. The dominance of hollow-grinds. Being a flat-grind person (my Culinary Arts background), I tend to limit myself automatically to flat groung offerings, which are in the small minority of Spyderco's lineup -- but still more than anyone else. I'm still not sure I'll buy Gunting -- I may just wait for Temperance Jr. instead.

3. Tip-up carry. Tip-down is my religion and I'm a true believer. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle> Since most of us are rather adamant one way or the other, I'd suggest making all clip-its switchable from tip-up to tip-down, from right to left.

4. Black handles. I am sick to death of the black G10 &quot;tactical&quot; folder image, and black FRN as well. I can't wait for the Lum Chinese folder with those green Almite scales. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle> &quot;Manly&quot; colours like O.D., dark blue, &amp;c. Please consider this esp. for your MBC/utility designs.

5. &quot;Tactical&quot; names. The only thing that makes me hesitate over the Military is its name. Spyderco is better about this than all of the other brands with their heavily promoted &quot;combat&quot;/&quot;SEAL&quot;/&quot;Special Ops&quot;/Flesh eater knives. In the event that I have to use a blade for self-defense, I don't want the image of my &quot;edged tool&quot; (to use BRAM's term) to project the demonized &quot;assault weapon&quot; image.

Edited by - Carlos on 7/27/00 10:54:36 PM

[Brian Lavin]

My wife was with me.

[John V]

For me it was blade shape. I almost didn't buy my first Delica because I feel the blade is just too pointy. I bought it anyway because the handle fit my hand so well and it is so slim that I can forget that I even have it with me at times. Also, it is the perfect length for area I reside in. (3&amp;1/2&quot; or larger is illegal here in Arkansas) However, my fears about the strength of the tip were proven true when I accidentally dropped my Delica on concrete and broke off the tip. I thought I had found my perfect knife in the Chinook, but I have heard that it will be produced in the large version first, and based on how well that one sells, we may or may not ever see the smaller version. I love the shape of the Chinook's blade, both for daily use and defense, but I won't be buying this knife until the 3&quot; bladed version appears. Don't get me wrong, I still buy other Spyderco's both for my collection and just the &quot;WOW&quot; factor of some of the styles (the reasoning behind my Civilian purchase <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>), but I am still looking for the &quot;perfect&quot; daily-carry/defense knife.

[cerulean]

Frankly, I just don't buy knives that are carried tip up, even if I really like the design. For instance; I love the Wegner, but I still haven't bought one simply because it's tip up. <img src="sad.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

[Kdarmy]

The main reason I have passed on some is the clip is not screwed into the liner, I want a clip I feel wont be ripped out when I get it caught on something.

Other reason is that on some models the liner locks went clear to the far side, offering no room for wear.



Kindest Regards,
Keith D.Armacost


Edited by - Kdarmy on 7/27/00 10:34:44 PM

[Dirk]

While I have owned and do own Spyderco Knives, the main reason I don't buy is design of most knives. While there are interesting and innovative designs, most don't offer what I am looking for. When something comes close, the materials used then make buying that knife less of an option.

For me, I like a nice finger notch or some type of solid finger guard to keep my finger from sliding onto the blade. This also allows for good solid grip when using the knife in various ways. Most Spyderco's offer minimal finger guards. There is improvement in this area, but not what I would like to see.

[tortoise]

When I first saw Spyderco knives (Worker, Hunter, Police) I thought, &quot;They look like surgical instruments, something you'd see on a tray in an operating room.&quot; I thought they looked like the handles had fallen off revealing the metal beneath. -Not the fancy looking handles I was used to. P.S.- it's years later and the stainless models are my ABSOLUTE favorites and the ones I carry every day.

[sam the man..]

Hello Joyce!
KEY factors - here are a few :

1. Redundantcy - some knives are similar in functionaly. Even if the designs tell them apart, they still bear some resemblence. I guess that's why you guys are culling certain models to make more room for new models.

2. The long wait - Some HOT! models ship too slow to Malaysia. Buyers get put off by this and quickly change their mind.

3. Lack of awareness - Spydercos are least known here in Malaysia. So, some of the HOT spydies had slipped through our spydie sensors. The dealers don't push their products hard enough both in Malaysia and Singapore. Its a small market, but the ELUs and collectors are out there. Out of more than 22 million Malaysians, its a tough job to keep ALL of them informed!

Well, that's about a few which I can name which kept some of us spydernuts here from getting our fangs on the knives!

Sam

[red mag]

because i have that particular model allready <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>
Greetings
red

PS: thanks for the contest

[Ken Lau]

The Spyderhole is the singular most important feature that I love about Spyderco knives. After playing with other brands opening studs etc., just found that it wasn't as simple or effective as a round hole.

However, on some models, the positioning of the clip really affected my decision. A lot of the time, the clips aren't close enough to the edge of the handle slabs as I would prefer. I understand with knives like the Rescue that you would want a hunk of handle sticking out of your pocket for ease of drawing the knife, but with most everyday carries, I like clips right up against the edge.
Thats about it really. Overall I'm a happy camper!
Ken

[ET]

I've always felt that the Spydernuts on Bladeforums were teased. For example, the Lum, plain edge Terzuola and Spyderwrench are nowhere to be seen at my local knife stores. And weren't we supposed to get diamond sleeves for the 204 or was that a dream I had?

The product line also seems so overwhelming that stores never have the exact model I'm looking for. They'll have the combo edge, or the fully serrated edge, or the plain edge Delica instead of the plain edge Endura that I really want. This is probably a catch-22 complaint cause the more knives I want, the more likely they're not in stock. And if Spyderco were to reduce the product line, I'd probably complain even louder.

And I'm not sure if Spyderco is making a huge profit margin off of me or if it's the store or if it's the exchange rates, but knives here in Toronto seem awfully expensive. When people ask me how much a knife of mine costs and I tell them, they usually look at me like I'm crazy. When I try to look at the situation from a non-Spydernut view, I see what they mean. This'll probably be why I'll never get to own a Bob T or a Civilian.

Another gripe relates to the black clips. It's not enough to stop me from buying a Spyderco but it does peeve me. Why does the paint always chip off? Is there no way around this at all? My brother bought a Native a little while ago and within a week I looked at it and the paint around the edges had already worn through. The stainless steel clips are a way around this problem but I'm sure there're others complaining.

[FullerH]

I am not a fan of the raptor style of blade as in the Civilian, the Merlin, or the apparently lamented Matriarch. While the StarMate is my absolutely favorite folder, I can pass on the hooked blades.

[v34]

All blades should have 50/50 serrated option I would have bought a Centofante and a military if they had that option. It is heresy to say this but the best Spyderhole knife ever made is the Benchmade Mini AFCK. I await the Military junior with bated breath.

[dalerich]

The only Spyderco knife that I did not immediately want to purchase was the Wenger. I was not impressed with the look and &quot;feel&quot; of this design. I know this is a sacred area for all the Wenger lovers out there but that is why there are so many excellent Spyderco designs available. One other blade that sort of fits in this catagory is the Toad. It is a cute knife but I cannot understand the relativily high sticker price. Great knife but a little more pricey than expected.

[Joel McNamara]

Great question. Here's a couple of my personal reasons.

Tip-down. Yup, individual preference. I started seriously considering Delicas and Enduras as a self defense tool after taking an Erik Remmen class back in the 90's. Myself (and a fair number of other folks who are obsessive about training, whether by profession of avocation), consider tip-up to have better ergonomics in a small to mid-sized (read legal) folder, during a defense situation. In a stressful encounter, it's critical to have established enough muscle memory for your training to automatically kick in. Over the years, all of my training has been done with tip-up models. Yes, there are some Spydies I lust over, but have passed on them because they are tip-down. A Spyderco is meant to be carried, and not sit on a shelf. Fortunately, situational awareness greatly reduces the chances of actually using your knife for defensive purposes. However, I do enough SAR, EMS, and fire-related activities to really need to rely on a consistent, quick, and reliable deployment. Can't afford for that muscle memory to get confused thinking it's an Endura when it's really a Military.

Tactical perception. I'll admit, I'm a tactical kind of guy (you probably gathered that from the above comments). But the reality is &quot;tactical black&quot; doesn't always cut it in the real world. Sure when I'm doing things with my martial arts, LEO, military, or fire buddies, anything goes. But when I travel in the US and abroad or am among the blade-phobic, a lot of people get freaked out by those black handles, aggressive blades and handle shapes, and serrations (sigh). I've had to pass on buying Spydies as gifts in the past, because of this. Take someone who doesn't belong to this forum and isn't an avid knife collector. Show him or her the catalog page on the Spyderco Web site. My hunch is they're going to make a comment about all of the scary looking knives. I know, tactical has done quite well in the industry. But I sense an upcoming need for non-threatening, classy knives that can function as everyday tools (and still meet the self defense needs of those of us who believe more in a Sun Tzu versus Rambo approach to tactics).

My two cents.

Joel

[Couteaux]

Basically it's cost. I tend to really like the higher dollar designs of your knives - and just can't afford them! I'm always looking for good used ones when I'm out and about!

Thanks for the constest! VERY generous!

BTW - I just got my new Khalsa model (found a really special deal) - its AWESOME!

Bob Mikus

[Munky_v2]

My main reason that I have turned down buying a spydie is price. It's not that they cost too much, it's that I don't make enough. I purchased the Merlin becasue it is such a cool knife, but I had to work overtime to afford it. Now I am saving for an Endura.

[Doc]

Joyce,
I don't buy stainless Spyderco's because they feel heavy and
slippery to me. I won't buy a Civilian because it actually
scares me.
I just received my Shabaria, however and I think it's the most
beautiful knife that Spyderco has ever produced.
Thanks for the contest
Doc

[Slayer]

My first post and it is an article...

I have carried and used endura and delica knives for the last 10 years. They have been good knives. My next purchase will be a spyderco; most likely a Goddard lightweight with plain edge.

I'm not a big fan of serrations even though the spyderco ones are better than the rest. Sharpening them is a pain (I have the small 4 stone ceramic file set) and I generally prefer clean cuts. The teeth also scare people and attract attention; a bad thing IMO. I get enough attention pulling out a knife with a blade over 2 inches that opens with one hand. I can always sharpen a plain edge using a very course stone to get microserrations, if needed. I traded a full-serrated endura 5 years ago and will probably trade my 50/50 delica soon. No more serrated for me (no offense Sal, the knives are great). Unfortunately, the stores seem to only stock the serrated or 50/50 edges.

Having used tip up carry for 10+ years, I prefer it strongly over tip down carry. I also don't like the idea of having to &quot;drop&quot; a tip down folder to open it rapidly. I can have a good grip on a tip up knife before it leaves my pocket.

It is desirable to have very little handle sticking out of my pocket. Place the clip as close to the end as possible to minimize the amount that shows.

I have a concern about the tip strength of the more pointy blades. That is a reason the goddard lightweight appeals to me. I also like drop point shaped blades. I haven't broken the edura or delica tips, but I have avoided any prying chores.

Cost is always an issue, but having the FRN handled versions available covers my needs for now.

Slayer (name is from online FPS games;I'm really a nice person unless provoked)

[RDaneel]

Wow. What a question. Price is definitely an aspect, but not frequently because Spyderco knives are affordable compared to other manufacturers.

Combo-edge if that is the only model a dealer has - I'd rather not.

Lately, the amount of handle above the clip. I like my knives the deeper in the pocket the better.

Dean

[jrollins]

My credit card is maxed out :-)

That and I'm waiting for some new models to come out. I REALLY want a Meerkat!!!


John Rollins KD7BCY
http://jrollins.tripod.com/
http://www.geocities.com/jrollins.geo/

[lear]

Being new to knives, I haven't had a chance to handle any.

[MarcoD]

The only thing that's ever stopped me is lack of funds and/or spousal approval.

[NCBlades]

I already have that model!

My wife was with me that day!

My wife had the check book that day!

We have a baby on the way!

We need diapers worse than another knife!

The baby has outgrown yet another pair of shoes.

Another knife? When are we going to build a house?

And on and on and on&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;..............

By the way, Thanks Sal.
michael



Edited by - NCBlades on 7/28/00 9:30:29 PM

[Leo Daher]

Being a southpaw and a big fan of Spyderco, the only thing that sometimes prevents me from buying your excellent knives (of which my wife and I have quite a few) is the possible unavailability of left-handed models. The Civilian and the Police are two that quickly come to mind, but they sure aren't the only ones I haven't bought for that reason.
That being said, I just love your ambidextrous folders, such as the Endura and the Delica. Keep up the good work!

Regards,

Leo Daher

[john]

My better half won't let me raid the kids collage fund.

[gaijin]

The only reason I would not buy another Spyderco knife is that there are too many Band-Aids on my fingers from playing with the knives I already have that I can't type in the order. It comes out looking like fdhfdsbjk hui ;aughsf ;au ;o;Ojhdsvfu!!!!!

[V-1]

One thing would be if I already have a comparable Spyderco. For example I have a G-10 Standard so I never picked up a G-10 Rookie. Also, AUS8 on some of the high end knives. Other than that nothing.

Thanks for the chance!

[sal]

Joyce - great contest!

Great info. Thanx from R&amp;D.

sal

[ceg]

Didn't buy a Spyderco cause I knew I'd win one in a contest....

Lack of information - years ago, didn't buy Spyderco because I didn't understand convenience of clip, hole and serrations. Got to try it to believe it.

[Grady3]

The main reason that holds me back convenience rather than money. I skip lunch for a long time to pay for a spyderco. It used to be very convenient because I worked for a company that sold spyderco. Somehow the corporate moron/buyer bollixed up the relationship and I was left with no nearby place to buy them. I recently tried to convince the replacement buyer to pickm up the relationship again if possible and I am REALLY un happy with the SOG's that we carry now. I found this site two days ago and now that is no longer an excuse.
unfortunately it has been replace with a new excuse. I really want a left handed mariner to replace the one I lost in a rental car in Charlotte over a year ago but I can't find it on the site. not even the discontinued area. It had the spyderedge blade and and a shackle key in the handle. hardly a day went by that it didn't see use. now hardly a day goes by that it is not sorely missed.

[bb]

Greetings! Thanks for the opportunity for input.

I am one of those who grew up on a farm and have carried a knife every day since I received my first jackknife at age six. I own lots of knives, mostly inexpensive mass-produced pocket folders, but for most of my adult life I have carried a smallish Swiss Army knife with two blades, a screwdriver/bottle opener, a small screwdriver/can opener, a Philips screwdriver, and an awl. In today's world I find a small screwdriver as indispensible as a blade.

The first Spyderco I owned was a Clipit Rescue I received as a gift, and it forever changed my attitude about how large a knife could be comfortably carried. It didn't have a tip for cleaning under my fingernails, removing splinters, and easily slipping under envelope flaps, so it never became my primary carry knife. But it did make me wish all my knives were as light, strong, and capable of heavy cutting chores, with pocket clips and stud-free one-hand opening, and of course with blades that lock open. I sometimes carry it along with my Victorinox Swiss Army Spartan.

I have purchased one other Spyderco, an Endura plain-edge, which I prefer to the Rescue model because it has a sharp tip and is more easily sharpened. Lately I have carried it as my second, &quot;quick access&quot; knife -- but when I carry only one knife, it is still the little Spartan, partly for the screwdriver and partly for the fine control of the thin, scalpal-sharp secondary blade.

I'm not buying Spyderco knives right now because none of them meet needs that aren't already met by knives I already own. However, I will gleefully buy another Spyderco when you make one that combines your characteristic Clipit features with the features of a small Swiss knife. I'd love to go back to just carrying one knife at a time -- I find that people tend to think one odd and potentially dangerous when one carries multiple knives.

Thanks for listening.

bb

[bdh_1]

hmmm, I think the main thing that has kept me from buying Spyderco knives was the old lightweights that friends have usually end up with broken clips. This, of course, was after many years of daily carry and then you're kinda attached to the knife. A friend was particularly fond of his OD green lightweight but the clip broke and you can't get the OD color any more. That always kept me from buying them. Anyway, there isn't much else that keeps me from buying the G-10, stainless or Almite models. Least of my problems is my wife, she's got just as many as I do and today she just couldn't pass up the Toad!!

[dsvirsky]

$$ in the case of the C22 CF Walker.

SFO sold out of grey Matriarchs before I could allocate the funds.

The rest I just haven't gotten to.

[dsvirsky]

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[dsvirsky]

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[dsvirsky]

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The duplicates aren't my fault!




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[dsvirsky]

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Edited by - dsvirsky on 7/30/00 12:43:42 AM

[Clay Kesting]

Joyce,

I apologise for my previous flippant answer, unfortunately one of our national characteristics is that we don't take anything too seriously (particularly ourselves <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>).

The one thing that has and will continue to prevent me buying a particular Spyderco knife is a partially serrated blade. In general I prefer plain blades but recognise the need for fully serrated blades in some circumstances (I have a Harpy for marine use). However I can't see any use for partial serrations particularly on small knives, seems to be too little of either to be usefull.

Clay
I've got a really good signature but it won't post.

[DL]

I'm left-handed, so I look for knives that I can open easily with my left-hand. I don't mind using my right to close the knife.

[swball]

An even combination of no leftie liner-locks, and insufficient funds. A man's gotta eat, you know. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>


--
Shawn

[RLR]

This is a specific answer: wanted a navigator but hated the G10. Really wanted it, but REALLY hated the G10. Apart from that, I be diggin' yall...

RLR

[Shmackey]

I prefer lockbacks to linerlocks (if I win, can I apply my money to a Calypso???)

Shmackey

[sailor1000]

Besides the usual &quot;NSF&quot; message from the bank, and the ill-timing on eBay, the only reason I've found for NOT buying a Spydie is one's own personal tastes. While there are good arguments made by collectors and knife-knutz in general about buying each model that comes out, Sal and Co. put out too many good designs. I try to limit my purchases to those that catch my eye and make me salivate heavily. I've bought a few that I have returned or re-sold due ot comfort or utility that just didn't meet my expectations. That's not saying there are bad Spydies out there, just some that aren't suited for me. I love each and every one that I own, and each and every knife gets USED a good deal, depending on application! So my answer is &quot;personal choice&quot; would be the only reason NOT to buy a Spyderco knife!

[Lonehunter]

No more room on my pockets to clip them!

[charlie]

1. Ignorance about quality knives.
2. No knowledge about one hand knife opening.
3. expensive to purchase a spyderco knife to find out if I would like it.
4. Purchased Endura at a closeout price from SMKW in 98, liked the knife it held an edge.
5. purchased the &quot;Spyderco Story&quot; book and gained an insignt to the co. and their knives.
6. Purchased the Tri-Sharpmaker, works great and I recommend to my friends.
7. Tried serrated edges and like them over straight, now that I have a system to sharpen them easily.
8. Found out about purchasing Spyderco knives over the internet at discount prices.
Own over 35 different Spyderco's and will continue to purchase as new models become available.
Thanks for the forum.
Charlie

[Hugo]

Hi Joyce and all Spyderco crew!

At some time I've selected not to buy a Spyderco knife for following reasons:
1) The quality of a higher-end Spyderco bought previously was not good. (Long story, don't want to get into this anymore)
2) On rare occasions (2), the quality of the knife/tool I was thinking of buying was not upto expected Spyderco standards.
3) High price. The prices here in Finland are very much higher than propably anywhere else. It's cheaper to order from USA, but even then I must add about 30% in taxes and customs. (Unless I get lucky.)
4) Then there are the different design reasons: low grade steel, serrations (Specially partial serrations! Don't get me wrong, for some serrations are good - like Rescue, Military) and other design asthetics.

Hugo.

Edited by - Hugo on 8/2/00 3:55:15 AM

[lshay]

Don't like stainless or zytel scales. I own almost every current G-10 or Micarta (more colors) Spydie, but the stainless and Zytel models just do not ice my donut. They do make good gifts though <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

[det]

Joyce,
I used to not buy because of the zytel clips. I guess it was seeing cheaper knives that had the clips break off. I eventually got an Endura anyway, and years later (after much hard use) no problems. I am still glad to see that they were replaced though. Now it's just my empty wallet that gets in my way.

[ShaunaX]

Ridiculously enough, I was almost held back from wanting a Spyderco because....of the clip. I have a Benchmade Ascent, which I love, and one of the best thing about it is the low-profile look of it. The clip is solid black. On the Spyderco Calypso Jr. I just got, there's a gold spider painted on the clip. I don't like it! I'm getting used to it, although it made me not want to obtain the knife to begin with. I'm also enjoying the stainless steel versions of the prod. knives now, although before I disliked them for the same reason. I wear a lot of dark colors, and the silver clip is highly conspicuous. Other than that......they're great. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

[Bladeboy]

So far the only thing that has stopped me from buying a Spyderco product is the fact that many of them are backordered from most retailers. Can't be waiting two years to satisfy my knife desires!

[wlh]

The main thing that has kept me from more Spyderco purchases was the Zytel handle material. I really like the Almite and the stainless stuff you make. And the Toad, I think it's a great knife!!

[pac35]

I have loved knives ever since I was about five years old. I recieved my first from my grandfather, a four inch blade with the stock made out of mohogony and brass, well protected by a leather belt case. Recently, I have found these wonderful knives that I can't leave home without. I currently own the &quot;C4 1 Native&quot;. The only factors that have kept me from buying more Spydercos are; one my project truck leaves little economical luxury, and two when I do have the money my credit card bills get most of it. Life sucks without a couple Spydercos....

[dashunde]

The number one thing that has halted a Spyderco purchase for me is the inconsistent blade steel usage... About the time I finally decide I want a particular model it now has a different/lower grade/undesirable steel... so I pass on it until it has the right steel, if ever. (The current Dragonfly is a good example, it went from ATS-55 to AUS-8 in the SS handled model... not a good change IMO)
I absolutely love the Calypso Jr. Stainless... and I would have bought one if it was available in either ATS-55 or 440V... preferably 440V

Edited by - Dashunde on 8/8/00 11:12:05 PM

[3than]

I think the ONLY real reason why I wouldn't buy a Spyderco is because, well, they're really scary-looking. Spyderco knives are, across the board, very beautiful and very dangerous in appearance--not only in their blades, but the handles are very, well, scary. They seem like weapons even more than they do tools. I recently bought a Spyderench, arguably your most tool-like product, and even this model has the appearance of a dangerous weapon. My brother is the owner of an older cricket model, and once, while being hassled by police, he showed the officer that small pocket knife at an officer's request. The officer described it as a 'ninja weapon,' despite its small size and its obvious appropriateness as a pocket knife.
Of course, this is also what gives spyderco knives so much of their appeal and allure...they are definitely some of the sexiest knives around. Too bad I was afraid for so long...

[Alick W]

Availability in UK.
Your importer won't deal direct with ELUs.
Love the classic stainless handled models &amp; tip down carry.
Will be much better if I can find a good online dealer in the US for personal import.
What is the Spyderco outlet store please ?

[Joyce Laituri]

Only 8 days left!

If you haven't posted on this thread yet go for it.....$500.00 Spydie bucks buys a lot of Christmas gifts (for yourself and your loved ones)!!

For those of you who have posted, thanks for the great input.

The winners will be posted the afternoon of August 17th.

Joyce

[RickT]

My wife handcuffed me to the fridge 3 months ago and i can't reach the key =)

truthfully i try to keep a budget and buy when i'm able. Have a great day!
Rick

[alasome]

Hmmm; so far I haven't bought a frn model; but I'm thinking of it. The toad model is just too small and dumpy looking for me.
Anthony Lasome
OK; I've gotten one of the Goddard lightweights (plain edge; sorry Sal) and they don't feel near as lightweight and cheap as I thought. Just what I need more knives to buy. If I get a chance to handle it I'd prob. like the Toad model too. SIGH!!!! What do I need money for anyway.


Edited by - alasome on 8/15/00 8:16:40 PM

[ToddO]

I don't live by these 100%, but they have turned me off on some past potential purchases.

Tip up carry
Finger coil on blade
Righty only
Liner lock

Best Regards, ToddO

[ThinkOfTheChildren]

The following things have kept my from buying Spydies:

Sperm bank won't give me anymore money.

Hands are too cut from other Spydies to function.

All of my pockets are already filled with clothing clips.

And the number one reason I didn't buy a SpyderCo product:

I couldn't buy the Gunting while it was still in development!

Edited by - ThinkOfTheChildren on 8/11/00 12:49:52 PM

[eda-koppo]

I won't buy the steel-handled Spydercos, probably because my first Spyderco was an Endura.

Steel-handled versions are sturdier, but are hard to hold on to, heavier, and the handles always look grimy (at least with the way I sweat), even after just handling my dealer's display models.

As an afterthought, the steel-handled versions are harder to snap open from pinching the hole in the blade--I often come close to dropping the knife because the handles are so heavy.


Edited by - eda-koppo on 8/12/00 1:00:54 PM

[eda-koppo]

Redundant post due to error messages--sorry!

Edited by - eda-koppo on 8/12/00 12:59:12 PM

[eda-koppo]

Sorry--I got error messages! Redundant post.

Edited by - eda-koppo on 8/12/00 12:58:32 PM

[bladezealot]

the knife would have to be really something in order for me to buy it if it carries tip-up. i hate that. i almost always carry tip down.the only exception i ever make is my sebenza.

[Dussel]

1. Availablity:

Try to get a plain egded Military in Germany these days<img src="sad.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

2. Zytel:

I just like G10 more and would'nt mind paying the extra money on some models if they would be available with G10 handles (f.e. Calypso Jr, Native)<img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

3. Blade Steel:

I would prefer to see all Spyderco Blades in Premium Steels like ATS 34, VG 10 or CPM. Would'nt mind the higher prices for those too<img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

Edited by - Dussel on 8/12/00 2:17:09 PM

[cgjones]

Well, when the Spyderench first came out, I really wanted one. My only concern was the fact that it was brand new and that it was a new area for Spyderco. The fact that they were hard to get ahold of didn't help either. To date, I still have not purchased a Spyderench, though a friend of mine just picked one up in Paris, so maybe he'll give it to me as an early birthday present. Yeah right!

[Brian_Turner]

1. The lag between announcing a model and fulfilling orders. I often find something readily available to spend the money on before a knife becomes &quot;real&quot;.
2. On _some_ models the price doesn't match the product. JD Smith is an ATS34/G10 lockback with questionable quality - price is way out of line.
3. FRN with lower grade steel. I have no desire to own &quot;cheap&quot; knives.

[Tommi]

I've wanted SS endura for a long time but the Blade steel aus-6 hinders me from buying one.

I've limited myself to one knife/month (because of financial reasons) this cruel self hindrance has kept me buying many.

[doppelganger]

Too many horrible crimes committed by minors recently in Japan- a 15-year old stabbing a whole family, killing 3 people, is the latest (yesterday)- it's very difficult finding shops that will sell me any knives because I'm underage, even though I've been using them responsibly for quite a few years...

[Joyce Laituri]

Just bringing this subject back to the top one more time. Winners are drawn tomorrow afternoon.

GOOD LUCK!

Joyce

[Joe Talmadge]

The main thing that's kept me from buying any particular spyderco is: many of my fave spydercos are liner locks, and I don't buy liner locks, not even from Spyderco (who admitedly is good at them). Hopefully the compression lock will satisfy my cravings for a rock-solid lock.

The other factor that occasionally comes up is ergonomics. This is a subjective thing of course, what works for one person doesn't work for another, sometimes. The Native and Wegner, two of my fave Spydercos, both fit my hand very badly for some reason.

Joe

[Fozzy]

I have never been disappointed with Spyderco's quality. The only thing that has ever kept me from buying a Spyderco knife is if that particular knife does not appeal to me. For example, the Khalsa, Shabaria and Zowada do nothing for me. Strictly a matter of personal taste.

Ben

[Vin]

Hi Joyce.
I have just about one of each.
Waiting for new stuff.
Vin.

[bengaiser]

Nothing! Every time I go to my local dealer to look at a particular knife, I end up buying it.

--
Ben

[mundele]

The biggest thing that has kept me from buying Spyderco knives is availability. I can look at knives all day on the web, but until I actually hold one in my hand I am not sure if it's the &quot;one&quot;. There are no stores near me that carry Spydercos (other than the occasional Delica or Endura). Oh yeah, there's also that money issue too... If I were only a rich man...

--Matt

[David Rock]

I think I would have bought a Wegner, but at the time I was worried about the safety of a liner lock with tip-up carry.

David Rock

[Ken Lau]

1) Because I've only got two hands
2) Because I have to spend money on food too
3) Because I've already got one for each day of the week
4) Because I'm starting to get strange looks from loved ones when they ask &quot;does anyone have a knife I can borrow&quot;
5) Because I've already got a separate category in my buget for Spydercos , which always runs over

[The Stare]

Until I learned that each Spyderco has a special purpose for which it was designed, I thought they were just odd-ly shaped, and wouldn't buy one.

But, when I realized they were good knives, and that each had a particular purpose/reason for existence, I bought those that fitted my immediate needs. I think both the Wenger and the Native are particularly flexible, multi use knives.

Stare

[Toolin]

I am sick and tired of holding Endura's, Delica's, and Native's at my local knife stores. I would like to hold, open, and close with some of your better knives. I am sure I am not the only person afraid to buy a $100+ knife without trying it first.

[FREDERIC K]

Main factor ?
Many models are not available here in France... and dollar is really high.

[jyork]

I guess the only Spyderco I haven't bought would have to be the Morans, I don't care for a fixed blade knife. Now I've had to delay buying one for reason of lacking funds but I always find a way.

Jyork

[scolby]

Hey guys! You picked up a post that is nearly a year old.

Joyce, you may want to delete this thread.

[Allen E. Treat]

There are three (3) factors :

1.) No money

2.) No outlet close by ( New Haven, Ct.)

3.) Item is either no longer in
production or on &quot;backorder&quot;.

That about says it ALL Joyce.

A.E.T.

[fisherman]

Hmmm.....MONEY and waiting for some new knives to come out.

Fisherman

[whosyour]

To test the market and accuzations of some other knife companies sayingh their's were &quot;Top of the Line&quot;.
So I tried about a dozen different companies,mainly production knives.
I've come to the conlusion that although other companies may have more expensive steels,or they're all made in the U.S.,or they are &quot;Tactical Killers&quot; they all cut they all wear,and they all dull and need sharpened.
Now here's the best part.When I talk to the good people at Spyderco,they talk to me like a rep should,not #24345678.The only thing that ever kept me from buying a spyderco is curiosity,well it is a lesson well learned,And I'll never buy anything from a company that doesn't treat customers as people,that is where Spyderco accels,others should take lessons!!!!

[thorin hammer]

The only thing from keeping me from buying more Spydies is not enough money. If I were to win $10,000 then at least $2,000 would go for Spydercos.

Some laws permit, what honor dose not.

[ruxton]

i was lookin for a place to buy a civilian in the uk, eventually i found one, they were gonna order it specially from america, everything was going fine till my dad found out how much it cost, he read the lil blurb in the magazine &quot;for undercover cops&quot; and asked me why i wanted one...
&quot;i dunno, it looks cool&quot;
needless to say i didn't get it. years later on holiday in america i got one eventually tho
mat

[ruxton]

oops kinda late just noticed this was from 2000 lol ignore me i'm dumb
mat

[Caleb]

Some factors:
-prices(l really want civie,millie,chinook and gunting but they are expensive)
-the spyderco round hole is the 2nd most important factor for a purchase
-the handle material:stainless,g10 and then zytel(i hate wood,aluminum,shell,and others naturals materials)
-the steel(i dislike AUS6 i prefer ats55 ats34,cpm440v and other high grade steel)
-the 3rd most important factor:the design.

[80L]

It took me a long time to get a spydie (just got it a few weeks ago), and it wasn't because I didn't know of them. I recall they first caught my eye at least 10 years ago, but I never followed up on them. Why? Availability. There just aren't many stores around that carry them. Finally, thanks to some advertising voodoo as well as the need for a knife, I went out of my way to find a retailer...they didn't have a lot of choices, but they had the Native II and that was an appealing knife for me. I am sure I would have bought one (or three) sooner had I seen more of the knives. Price isn't so much an issue because if its a quality product I'll spend the money.

[Rugger]

1) Cost- not having deep enough pockets to afford what I wanted
2) Availibility- not in stock-

[Rugger]

1) Cost- not having deep enough pockets to afford what I wanted
2) Availibility- not in stock-

[Dav]

Strange. Is the thread closed or not? &lt;shrugs&gt;

1) I was looking for a Shabaria, The new one is apparently not out yet.
2) The dealers don't carry weird looking knives like that. Apparently.
3) Money - I mean how many knives do I &lt;need&gt;
4)Old models stocked in stores near me.

My .02
Dav

[dsvirsky]

Blade length (most of my knives are 3&quot; or under) and no useful function for me (e.g., Matriarch and Civilian).

[matthewdanger]

It's tough to find the money for a sweet Spyderco when you are putting yourself through college!