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Clay Kesting
04-19-2002, 12:00 AM
My forum knife (#208) finally arrived yesterday after Customs had a good play with it. What a pleasant surprise!!!! I hadn't planned to buy a Vesuvius and only ordered this one to complete my forum knife collection. I now realise that I would have missed out on a rather special knife (alright Blades, I know I should have listened to you<img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>). This design appeals to me almost as much as my beloved Chinese Folders and for much the same reasons. There is the same integration of all the parts to make a unified whole and the same flow of the handle into the blade. In the past I've complained that the 4&quot; knives didn't quite fit my hand and lamented the lack of knives of a similar size to the Viele. Someone must have been listening because this handle fits my hand as though they were made for each other. I particularly like the sloping thumb ramp as I find the hump on most <img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>s pushes my thumb too far back, maybe I've got long thumbs. For this reason I usualy prefer knives like the Viele, Native, Centofante and Chinese Folder that don't have a hump, but the sloping ramp on the Vesuvius is a nice compromise and still makes room for a large hole.



The prototype Vesuvius used G10 for the scale material and there was much consternation when it was announced that the production version would be FRN. I couldn't understand the concern at the time as I'm no great fan of either material, after all they're both plastic. However I realise now that it is the usual textures I don't like more than the materials. The smooth FRN on this knife is very attractive and is set off nicely by the grooves and silver <img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>, so much nicer than the original pearl version IMNSHO (but then I sold off my pearl Native). The big surprise is the fully nested liners which explain why the scales had to be FRN, much too expensive to machine from G10. The liners give the knife a nice solid heft unlike the usual FRN knife.



I haven't had a knife with a drop-point blade since the passing of my Wegner Jr so I'm looking forward to using this and comparing it to my favourite Wharncliffes. I'm pleased that the blade is as thin my Centofantes which are the standout performers in my knife roll. Now if only it was flat ground <img src="sad.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>.



A couple of nit picks. The grind on the swedge is uneven, it finishes well above the point on the back of the blade. Also the &quot;detent&quot; doesn't hold the blade as tightly closed as my linerlocks so I may have to reconsider changing the clip to tip-up.



To sum up, this is an extremely elegant gentleman's folder designed by one of the masters of the art. I think Spyderco is the only company which could have executed it so well, particularly at this pricepoint. Thank you Sal for making this availabe as a forum knife as otherwise there would have been a big hole in my collection.



Clay



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RYAN
04-19-2002, 04:27 PM
Glad to see you enjoying the blade, Clay. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> I fell in love with mine the minute I set my hands on it!

Blades
04-19-2002, 07:33 PM
<img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>
The Vesuvius is just a nice knife. I don't know why I ever waited so long to get mine. It is one of my &quot;user&quot; EDC. I wanted it to be my left side carry EDC, but since I have it set for tip up carry, it bit me twice. So it is a right side carry now. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>
Clay,
Is it going to be a carry blade or a collection blade?? Just wondering. Glad you are enjoying it. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>


Blades

sam the man..
04-19-2002, 08:02 PM
G'Day Clay! Thanks for sharing about the Vesuvius! Great overview! <img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0><img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0><img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>

Sam

have surgical scars will travel..

java
04-19-2002, 09:45 PM
Clay,

A very lucid, concise, and insightful evaluation. I have two of the shell inlay Vesuvii but after handling and comparing the Forum Vesusvius (260), I realize I should not have had put off buying a standard model. I will now correct this oversight immediately, if not sooner. Your comments on the thumb ramp struck a familar chord here. I too, prefer the feel of the Viele, Native and Lum Folders for this reason.

Glad you're enjoying the blade. Have a bobby dazzler of a day, mate!


Stay safe! Stay sharp! <img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>

Alan2112
04-19-2002, 11:45 PM
The only thing I don't like about the Vesuvius is that it feels so good in my hand, other knives don't feel so good anymore! Like our pre 98 Endura for example, one of the best ergornomic knives there is to me. RKBA!

Clay Kesting
04-20-2002, 01:19 AM
Blades,

I had intended carrying it on special occasions only, but it is so nice I think it might get used more often. All my knives get carried, all that varies is the frequency <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>.

I'm interested to see that your Vesuvius has bitten you when it was tip-up. I changed mine to tip-up with some trepidation but may now change it back.

Clay

Life's too short to waste on instant coffee.

hy
04-20-2002, 02:22 AM
Congrats Clay!!!...Nice to see that you completed your forum knife collection<img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>

Edited by - hy on 4/20/2002 2:25:11 AM

Clay Kesting
04-20-2002, 04:44 AM
G'day hy,

Nice to see you're still lurking. I was about to email you about the Vesuvius. Any news on the custom front?

Take care,
Clay

Life's too short to waste on instant coffee.

hy
04-20-2002, 11:14 AM
Clay, no worries...<img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>.....Sent you an email<img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>

4 s ter
04-20-2002, 11:19 AM
Clay (and others)

I have to agree that the Forum Vesuvius is a very well designed and stylish knife. The manufacturing quality is excellent - as I've come to expect with Spyderco.

My knife (#210) didn't have any problem with uneven grinds although I must agree that the detent on closure is relatively weak.

I switched mine to tip-up carry when I received it, since I intended to carry it and all my other Spydies are tip-up. After carrying it for a day however, I put it in the display case. I think from now on I'll reserve it for carry on special occasions - those that are a little dressier! It may have replaced my Micarta Jess Horn for that use <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>

Congratulations and thanks to Sal and company for another great knife!

(now - what's the next <img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> purchase going to be?)

Blades
04-20-2002, 06:32 PM
Clay,
I wanted my Vesuvius to be my left front pocket carry knife. I carry my keys in that pocket also. I tried it for a day or so then had to move it. Once when reaching into my pocket, got a poke. Clean cut, didn't even hurt, just bled alot. You gotta love a sharp blade!! <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> Anyways, I tighten the pivot screw a few turns, and went back to carrying left front. Later on in the day, sticking my hand in my pocket slowly, I find the blade open just a bit. It doesn't poke me the second time. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> So I moved it to right rear pocket. It is still tip up, but I haven't had any problems with it opening in my RR pocket. I don't know why it opened in my left front, but at work I'm always getting my keys out. Maybe I bumped it. No telling. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>


Blades

Edited by - Blades on 4/20/2002 6:33:25 PM

Clay Kesting
04-21-2002, 03:26 PM
Blades, thanks for elaborating. I carry mine in my RF pocket, so I'm hoping the seam will keep it closed. I'll wait until it cuts my pocket and then reevaluate the situation <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>.

4 s ter. Funny you should mention the micarta Jess Horn, I was only thinking the other day that the Vesuvius fills the same niche in the line-up. There aren't too many true &quot;gentleman's folders&quot; in the cattle dog these days, the Viele is still there of course, but before that there was only the Centofante. The latter became a bit too &quot;tactical&quot; when it was changed to G10 INMO. The micarta Calypso Jr also makes a nice dress knife but I think the Vesuvius is the nicest of the lot. It is slimmer than the Viele and the finish on the FRN is a bit &quot;grippier&quot; and won't show scrathes as much as polished micarta. The more I play with this knife the more I like it <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>.

BTW gotta love the new box <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>.

Clay

Life's too short to waste on instant coffee.