Is this for real? (interesting description)

[frontline29]

I found this listing on Ebay. Exact copy and paste.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/Spyderco-C38GP-knife-B360-/320628425425?pt=Collectible_Knives&hash=item4aa6f182d1


In this paragraph C38GP is smaller one paragraph folding knives, double-sided G10 as folding knives handles for the main support, with metal liner, but not enough to support tools knife good use guarantee, and reduced the weight, portability improved a lot.
Simple design, do not have a lock design, fool type to match and simple swift, blade firmly. Put your sword blade and hilt, 90 degrees to the location of the primary pause, prevent put your sword accidentally met fingers, embodies the spider tool consistent humanization, safe and practical.

Class type: folding knives
Type number: C38GP
Full length: 17.5 cm
Blade length: 7.5 cm
Closed length: 10.6 cm
Blade materials: 440C mostly
Hard degrees: 56
Table face mercirizing
Blade thickness: 0.28 cm
Handle long: 10.6 cm
Handle materials: G10
Heavy quantity: 60 grams (ultra-light!)
The steel wire back clip

SPYDERCO is founded in the us state of Colorado tool company, it with unprecedented innovation spirit and famous. Modern famous folding knives of a single hand open function, easy to carry the CLIP next (CLIP) these almost become a modern high-tech folding knives symbol design. It is SPYDERCO invented! Now SPYDERCO company has with dozens of design patent. Its trademark sexual one-hand opening garden hole modelling makes people under can recognize that glance is SPYDERCO products. And open most quick! In the United States Spyderco called "Standard Standard Setter) founder (" innovative design, excellent material selection, perfect technology. This is Spyderco tool!
In 1991, the United States and Sweden organization in everest-climbing, mountaineering expedition SPYDERCO company C11 was selected as the designated cutting tools

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Here's a pic of the knife.

[Creepo]

Location: Hong Kong, "We know good english here."
The pic illustrates a UKPK in black G10 aka C94GP.
C38 refers to Jess Horn lightweight, G=G10, P=plain edge, there is no such variant.
B360 in the title means absolutely nothing and has nothing to do with Spyderco nor with any of their products.
The description is horrible and totally wrong at best. :D
The knife in the pic seems real, though from a seller in China...
I've heard of chinese fake UKPK's before, nothing new.

[The Deacon]

It's a fake UKPK, and unfortunately an almost perfect one. The only thing they did wrong was not putting the two channels for left handed clip mounting on it. Aside from that, it is so disturbingly accurate that it has fooled several members here.

[Frapiscide]

Just me, or is the font and spacing on the blade a little weird?

[Pneumothorax]

The only other thing aside from the clip channels missing on opposite side is that to my eye, it looks like the clip is not heat treated - I believe the clip on my UKPK is heat treated and therefore not pure silver in color. Also, on the knockoffs, I notice a bit that the clip wires are not really parallel. THey are a bit wider at the screw than a the end. Either that or my mind is playing tricks on me.

[The Deacon]

Just me, or is the font and spacing on the blade a little weird?


The only other thing aside from the clip channels missing on opposite side is that to my eye, it looks like the clip is not heat treated - I believe the clip on my UKPK is heat treated and therefore not pure silver in color. Also, on the knockoffs, I notice a bit that the clip wires are not really parallel. THey are a bit wider at the screw than a the end. Either that or my mind is playing tricks on me.The shape issues could be real, or they could just be perspective and/or distortion in the photo.

Clip color is definitely wrong for the black G-10 UKPK.

Sad fact is that buying any "brand name" knife from a vendor in China with the expectation that it is legitimate is foolhardy.

[ChrisR]

It's a very convincing Chinese fake, which has been offered for sale as the real thing by some Chinese and US traders in the past :(

As has been said, the clip-slots and shiny-silver clip are dead give-aways but the etching is very slightly different and the jimping on the thumb-ramp is coarser too. I also think the G10 is worse quality and the fit & finish isn't up to Spyderco standards.

[The Deacon]

I also think the G10 is worse quality and the fit & finish isn't up to Spyderco standards.I'm sure you're correct, assuming it's G-10 at all, which is questionable. I'd also give odds the steel is not really S30V, or even close to it.

[ChrisR]

I'm sure you're correct, assuming it's G-10 at all, which is questionable. I'd also give odds the steel is not really S30V, or even close to it.
Yeah, the G10 feels quite "cardboardy" but that might just be my imagination and the steels is probably going to be something generic, like 440C (if you're lucky). I have taken one of these apart (all in the name of research to help prevent people getting conned) and all the parts are thinner than on a genuine UKPK so the back-springs are likely to be weaker and more prone to failure. The manufacture is also sloppy and the blade opens with irregular degrees of force - the half stop being a bit sloppy and the knife blade often wobbles a bit.

They key point to remember is that the photo they show in the advert is of one of the best they could find in a batch - it in no way represents the quality of the one buyers would receive.

Chinese factories can make excellent knives (like the ones that Spyderco use for some of their models) but fakes like this are usually very sub-standard, which is how they can afford to sell them for such low prices. ;)

[mikerestivo]

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[Pinetreebbs]

If you can handle one of these fakes the clip will be flimsy. It will move sideways across the scales and the blade pivot/lock surfaces will be crudely ground/finished. Thieves!

[phillipsted]

They probably pounded this blade out of an old car fender.

TedP